Will Ollie’s kid enter the story? (does that happen in comic books?)
I’m guessing not.
Brian
They said it. It’s inevitable. Hopefully Thea will have to adopt and raise it, and the kid will be reeeeally whiny and needy.
Oliver of course will punish himself for not being everything, for everyone, every moment of the day, and apologize continuously.
I’m just glad to see crixus with his head still attached.
Arrow is generally the first thing I watch when tivo shows have piled up…
Really? This episode was pretty much about foreshadowing next season’s casting changes: Moira and Sarah are going/gone, the kid and his mother will be added. In the comics, GA has a couple of sons as I recall - one by Shado (so unworkable for the show), a teen that just showed up out of nowhere who was just as good an archer and took over the role when Ollie disappeared.
What, superheroes discovering they have illegitimate offspring?
See Connor Hawke.
Guess I was thinking superhero. Since training isn’t genetic the kid probably won’t have any powers.
But as yet another distraction, I can totally see that.
Plus they will have to resolve Queen Industries
Brian
Ah, man! Cliffhanger ending. Didn’t resolve nuthin’.
Well, Blood got it.
I was really hoping Roy would get to put his rage power to use against some of his fellow Mirakuru guys. They cure him first? Bummer.
I suppose it’s about time Thea just started killing people who don’t fill her needs.
Then again, Captain Jack is a hard man to kill. I’m sure he prepared for just such a reaction.
I forgot what his connection is with Arrow and why they’re both archers.
He was in a relationship with his mom and is the Dad of Tommy Merline, Arrow’s friend.
I forget why he is also an archer. Is her from the league of shadows?
Evidently, everybody in this show can acquire superhuman skills after a couple of weeks at DeVry.
You keep saying this. Ollie and Sarah spent years training in harsh conditions. Sarah spent 5 years working as a professional assassin, Ollie spent two years training and three years living in a jungle by just his bow. Malcolm Merlyn’s backstory says he left Starling City to train with the League of Assassins for an undisclosed period after his wife died; the core of his problems with Tommy was that he disappeared for years, leaving his grieving son parent-less.
Basically, everyone on he show is portrayed as having at least his or her Masters degree in combat. The only person with a couple weeks training is Roy, who’s had his butt kicked by pretty much anyone with more training, despite having super powers.
Thanks for a much better analogy than I could ever have thought of myself. Five years of training is indeed the equivalent of a Master’s degree.
And with a Master’s degree in anything else, chemistry or physics or whatever, you are lucky to get a job in your field. If you do, you’ll likely end up doing routine work, under the supervision of someone with a Ph.D, who is also unlikely to have ever been heard of outside of a small portion of the floor of the building where he works, testing food dyes on rats. Or maybe you can teach in a high school, like in Breaking Bad.
Whereas in this show, five years of (very intermittent and haphazard) training gets you the equivalent of the Nobel Prize in Archery. And another Nobel Prize for unarmed combat. And another one in Magic (or whatever it is that makes them disappear into thin air when the guy they’re talking to turns his head for a second, even in a closed office).
Look, if you enjoy the show, great. If you want to suspend your disbelief, great. And it’s certainly not the first show where a few seconds of typing on a laptop gives you full control of a large city’s power grid and stuff.
But when you start arguing seriously that what they do is plausible, you’re getting a little too involved.
Whether you can land a job or not, someone with a Masters has studied for five years, and that doesn’t diminish the knowledge and skills acquired. It’s not like everyone’s working in Starbucks now - the characters are portrayed as gaining actual combat experience every week. Considering they’re fighting mostly cops (97% of whom neer draw their weapons their entire career) and criminals (most with minimal if any fighting experience) I don’t see it as miraculous that someone with that much training can beat street thugs and henchmen.
I don’t think most of the antics on the show are plausible, but you seem to have an axe to grind about just this element of a comic book show. Not that the police can summon dozens of SWAT officers to a scene within seconds, or a CEO can be voted off the board for missing one meeting without being told there was a shareholder meeting when he and his mother own the bulk of the shares, or a 19-year old can own a nightclub, or that a CEO comes to said nightclub in person to serve an eviction notice forcing her out in two days with no legal grounds for breaking the contract. Or that any city would vote for a 20-something for mayor with the surname Blood in a town not named Bloodville. And your biggest gripe is that Ollie didn’t attend an accredited martial arts school?
In sum, your complaining about all the bathwater on your clothes with a baby wedged in your eye. What’s up with that?
Isn’t there one more ep (Unthinkable)?
It’s not my biggest gripe; it’s just what somebody asked about, and I commented on it. You’re the one who is singling out the combat skills as the one plausible element in the show. Even above, where you list all the other ludicrous stuff, you’re still arguing that in the case of combat, well heck, all he’s doing is beating career thugs and cops. Usually several at a time, usually armed with guns, often fully automatic guns with seemingly unlimited ammo. Nothing unusual for a guy who honed his skills against rabbits, or maybe birds, “living in a jungle by just his bow.”
I don’t understand why you keep defending that aspect, even as you acknowledge that pretty much the whole show exhibits a comic book understanding of the world. That’s really all I was saying to whoever asked about the combat — just go with it, because it’s a comic book, where everyone running the city is 25 years old and looks like a movie star.
Sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way. I didn’t mean to come off like I’m above it all. Actually, my favorite genre is sci-fi and fantasy, which is even less realistic than this show.
Is there? Oh, good.
I was hoping to find out why Slade’s eye didn’t heal. I figured it might have something to do with the antidote. Maybe Arrow dips an arrowhead in antidote and stabs him in the eye.
We seem to feel the same way about each other. I don’t see myself as defending that one aspect, but rather wondering why just that aspect seems to annoy you. A ton of the show’s warts are covered under the “it’s a comic book” waiver but to me it seems just that aspect seems to bug you. It’s like buying that Superman can fly but grousing about how no one recognizes him with glasses.
The world is full of physically fit people who can shoot arrows. There’s only one Green Arrow and only a couple people in the world who could match him. That’s because GA is a super hero. It’s like being a child prodigy chess genius after only playing for five years. Super heroes without super powers are like rare prodigies at whatever their specialty is. Not just anyone can “train really hard,” and expect anything other than average results.
Which they’ve somewhat implied, since Ollie’s tried to teach others the bow and none have been able to master the fundamentals.