What happens at this point? Do you simply apologize and the game progresses as if they chose to check around, or is there another protocol?
Yikes. I hope you at least provide free lube as a comp with that ass rape. 
I’m not sure what the first sentence means. As for the second - $5 rake if you’re winning a $50 pot doesn’t seem like a big deal, but it’s huge.
Think about it - let’s say you win 10% of the hands at 60 hands per hour. Let’s hypothetically say that since the game is probably loose you’re averaging $4 per hand in rake, and a dollar tip. That’s $30 you’re paying to the casino per hour. If you’re better enough than the other players to make $16 per hour, which is 8 big bets, a high win rate, even though you’re beating the other players, you’re actually losing $16 per hour.
If this game were unraked, a halfway competant player could beat it handily. Raked at that rate, you’d need to be an expert to grind out a tiny profit.
Trust me, as someone who has paid tens of thousands of dollars in rake, money that I’d otherwise have in my pocket, rake is a HUGE factor. If it weren’t for rake, perhaps 1/3rd to 3/5ths of all poker players would be winning players, but with rake, it’s closer to 1/10th.
Generally I’d disagree with that, but yeah, you’re not going to beat a 1/2 game with a $5 rake.
Actually losing $14 per hour, that is.
Do you deal at the Hard Rock or one of the other places around here? If I wear a Uncle Cecil loves you button and play at one of your tables can you give me a wink or something?
I’ve actually never played poker in a true pro setting, and may never. But I’ve always been “curious” about it. Come out to one of the local Dopefests sometime and say hello.
- Shibb
Yes, beating a $2 game with a $5 rake isn’t easy. Most don’t. I consider our players to be playing for entertainment and those that come in to be “professional poker players” to be a bit delusional. The fact is, you really can’t beat the house, or hone your strategy, what our game is good for is teaching you to read players. Even if you have a player that calls every bet, you can still learn to read them. Use the game for that and entertainment, and you will leave happy.
I deal at one of the “other places around.” We are open year round, so that should give you a good idea. I don’t think I am giving away any house secrets, since there really aren’t any, so I wouldn’t think it would be that big of a deal, but just to be safe.
I have to say, I haven’t seen an Uncle Cecil button, but I am rather distinct, or was, I was the first and only pregnant dealer. So if you ever had a tempermental, hormonally unstable, pregnant dealer at “one of the other places” then that was me. Give a wink? Heck, play your cards right, I might even give you a pot. 
As far as the mistake I made, not allowing the river betting round. Really, oopsie is all that can be done, the players are free to bet, but they already know who won the pot, so, yeah, oopsie.
I just became a member here, but have been lurking for a few months and have wanted to attend a dopefest. Figured it would be better to do it if I had more to offer than “hey, I’m a lurker.”
Are you paid strictly by what you deal or do you have a salary?
You said you have no interest in the game itself. How did you get interested in dealing? Is it the money? Do you do any other casino games? How does one become a dealer?
I find poker fascinating, though I don’t play. It sounds like a really interesting but tough job.
I’ve only been playing Hold 'Em for a few months, so please excuse my newbie question: I know that everyone gets to play the cards the dealer shows, so that would have given everyone 4 aces, right? Would the pot for that hand just get split among the people who were still in?
In this case, that’s exactly it. Usually if there are 4 of a kind on the board, the hand is decided by the “kickers” (the highest other card in anyone’s hand). In this case, the highest possible kicker is a king, which is also on the board. So it is impossible for anyone to beat the board, and hence everyone who is still in the pot will split it.
We get paid minimum wage for tipped employees, approximately $3.88 an hour. I tend not to think about it. What ever the going rate is for wait staff is what we get.
We depend on you to tip us, we love you for it. Really.
I had a friend that was a blackjack dealer, I like the gambling environment but am cursed with the most unlikely luck ever. I am a terrible gambler, I am optimistic and curious, a deadly combination, especially in poker. I was taught to deal by working at a “casino” Even where I work now, we will teach you to deal for free if you are an employee, most of our brushes attend classes to be dealers. There are schools around that will teach you how to deal. Given the pay we make, it’s usually a good deal. The local school here costs $1300 and you can earn that back pretty darn quick. It is usually not necessary to attend a school. There is no certification requirements. We hold auditions and if you can pass the audition, you are hired. If you pay attention to what dealers do (the good ones) as far as pitching the cards, mechanics of the game, teach yourself the rules, learn how to rake, school isn’t necessary, however, I do reccomend it, if only for the sheer practice of sitting at a real table and being forced to pitch cards for hours at a time. Your pitch is your life, it determines the speed of your game. Also, being able to pitch them face down in a room with ceiling fans can be tricky.
Most of our dealers are part time, really it’s a great job even as a part-timer. You can typically make more in a short shift than you can pretty much make anywhere else.
I am hesitant to discuss actual pay amounts because that is against policy. Dealing isn’t easy, you have to deal with a very wide range of people/attitudes. Some like dealers that are friendly, some hate them. With 100 dealers, all ages and types are represented. It is a repetitive job, but far more interesting to deal than blackjack, since poker is as much about the player as the cards. It can get tedious, but we switch tables every 30 minutes, so one bad table, worst case, you are there for 30 minutes and you can escape.
It beats the hell out of working for a living.
Yes, there is no hand that could have possibly beat the board, in which case, the pot is split among the players still in the hand. The pot was split 7 ways. The guy that folded didn’t get squat. Also in that scenario, betting in the final round is kinda silly because it will just increase the rake.
I live in Westchase near Linebaugh. Are you very close to me? If so I’ll stop by for a fun hand or three. Otherwise I’m not chasing over to the other places in hopes of finding a pregnant (I swear it wasn’t me!) dealer.
Card counting is not cheating. It’s simply astute play.
I’m interpreting this sentence differently – I think they’re saying that card counting is a way to beat the house mathematically without cheating, and asking if there’s a way to do that with poker.
How many people don’t tip? I mean, granted, I will never play at a %10 rake table even if there is no tipping expected, but I’ll never stand a chance to make any money even at a %5 rake table if I’m expected to tip.
Even though I only lose money ~ %10 of the time when playing with friends, I’d still be down %90 of the time with any sort of a rake PLUS a tip.
Shib: I don’t work at the closest card room to you, I work across the bridge, however, I live in Baycrest Park, on Memorial. Oh, and I’m no longer pregnant, I have a 4 month old gorgeous redhead.
It is rare to not be tipped. Very rare.
The rake in our state is set by the state, so it’s not like we have any control over it, it is what it is, and many folks find it better than no poker at all.
Do you deal clockwise, counterclockwise or does it vary by “handedness”?
While that may be true, allow me to :dubious: a few thousand times. To me that smacks of the “FCC Network Maintenance Fee” that phone companies charge that is not mandated nor charged nor collected by the FCC - it’s a fee that the FCC allows them to collect.
While it’s certainly possible that Florida requires a rake of %10, no more, no less :dubious: , it seems more likely that every place charges that under the excuse of regulation.
Everything is done clockwise, regardless of handedness. Stud games you begin to the player to your left. Flop games you begin with the player to the right of the button. I’m a lefty, fwiw. Players always notice this. It used to be considered bad luck for a dealer to be lefthanded, then again, a woman dealer was bad luck also. Then again, I have a winner every hand, just like righties and men, so YMMV
We just got into a battle with the state regarding our tournament play and whether or not it conformed with the $2 betting limit. We are required by the state to post our rake, you are correct, it may be as legislated as I implied, but it is standard in our neck of the woods.
Have you ever actually caught someone cheating? I don’t mean something the casinos don’t like but is legal like card counting, or just someone’s dumb mistake, but someone actually attempting to cheat?