Ask the retired Air Force guy (I may as well jump on the bandwagon!)

G’ahead; take your best shot!

so, you pissed off at the civilians for being civilians yet? i was when i got out of the army. took a while to become used to the darned long hairs all over the place. :slight_smile:

note to self: grow LONG hair after seperating from the air force.

::looks up at his whiteboard::

Only 151 days left… :smiley:

-dook

I’m not pissed at them; I just confuse’em by using military terms and acronyms.

As for long hair, I tried it. It touched my ears and drove me nuts! I’m not always 35-10, but it will forevermore remain short.

Dook, are you retiring or just separating after 1st hitch?

Seperating… I’ve put in my 4. Well almost, anyway. 4 & 1/2 months before I go on terminal leave. This summer is already starting to drag ass. I think I’m going to go nuts before August.

-dook

Try giving’em 17 years! LOL!

i still use all the acronyms, and everytime i say something like, “thats squared away” or “time to DX this or that” or “absolutely!” i get looks. can’t help it though.
17 years? thats 15 too many for my liking.

Hmmm. No thanks. I wouldn’t be able to handle it. I’d lose it and end up on top of Wilford Hall with an assault rifle.

-dook

So you’re stationed at Lackland?

One of my sayings that gets laughs is when I tell someone to ‘press on with pride’.

Hi, honey! No question, since I’m living the life myself. Just wanted to pop in and say hi to my best bud. :smiley:

Oh, and dook? Email me, I have a question for you. And, Please don’t do that! I’m at Big Willy a lot some days!! You wouldn’t want to hit me would you? :eek:

OK, here’s a serious question.

Is there a web site (or some other place I can go) that shows the requirements for rank advancement in the Air Force (or any other branch of the military). I’ve looked at several military sites but found it ** very ** confusing.

Zev Steinhardt

No questions, just coming in to smooch my bud and state that I love guys in uniforms… swoon

Nope. Just down the road a bit, at Brooks.

OOOOOOOOH I could answer this for you, but I think I’ll let VB do it. If he was in for 17 years, I’m sure he knows a lot more about kissing ass than I do, and can explain it a whole lot better :wink:

-dook

Zev, i don’t know any websites, but the IET book given in basic training in the Army to the newly enlisted privates explains it, perhaps if you do a search for that. Initial Enlisted Training.

I don’t of a website offering those specific answers, but I’ll do the best I can, based on my Air Force observations.

From Airman Basic (no stripe) up through Sergeant (3), promotion is automatic, based on time in service, unless you screw up.
Staff Sergeant and above you test for. Under the Air Force, the system is called WAPS, for Weighted Airman Promotion System.
Factors involved include how many can be promoted for each pay grade (this establishes the cut off), Time in Service, Evaluations, awards & decorations, and two tests. The first is the PFE, which tests your general Air Force Knowledge ,and the second is the SKT, which tests your specific career field knowledge.
The combined score from these factors are calculated, and based on the score relative to the cut off, you get promoted or you don’t. The higher your score, the sooner you get to sew it on. Chief Master Sergeants not only jump these hoops, but their records go before a board too, as the number of Chiefs is regulated by congress (I think).

I’m not sure about officers; I think up through captain it’s automatic, as long as they keep their noses clean. For Major and above, it goes to a board.

That’s it in a nutshell, and simplified.
Some details might have changed since I retired in '95.
If you can find an AF buddy, ask him for a copy of his PFE manual; you’ll find it enlightening!