Assess Obama's first-year performance

Sara “Seeing Russia from Alaska counts as foreign policy experience!” Palin’s negativity were entirely and completely manufactured by her. If anyone is saying she took a lot of shit from people, then the only person who deserves the blame is Sara Palin.

The level of bile is completely not comparable to Bush, who started a war with a country that didn’t attack us and made possible the economic climate that lead to the recession that Obama has to dig us out of. Everything the Pubs complain about Obama regarding terrorism and transparency can be traced directly to Bush, so I take a little pleasure in knowing that all of them are actually attacking Bush’s policies.

Obama deserves an A for effort and B for accomplishments. Health care got out of Congress. He’s getting us out of Iraq. He’s refocusing on Afghanistan. He’s shutting down Guantanamo and if it wasn’t for some disloyal and traitorous Pubs, he’d have the terrorists out of there and on trial already. He’s actually showed that America doesn’t have to be a bully and he’s not worried about idiots screaming that he bows. He is doing exactly what I expect and want him to do in Iran: Legal sanctions and pressure but absolutely no talk of attacking them. And he’s kept us safe for 100% of his presidency, something Bush cannot claim. And he’s pissing off Dick Cheney, which is always a good thing.

B for social issues
A for economics
B+ in foreign policy
A+ in passing health care
B- in dealing with the Pubs
A++ for pissing off Cheney :smiley:

Unfortunately, that’s all he really has to offer. “I’m not Bush.” Super.

And this is exactly what I mean. What we do not see are people with the opposite experience: believing he would not “actually reform the way health care works” but being pleasantly surprised otherwise.

Completely agree. When I say Bush regime I am really talking about those who surrounded him (Cheney and Rove, for example) and not Bush alone. McCain couldn’t have avoided putting some of those people in power again and, in my bad dreams, he just reinstates the same foxes in the same henhouses. Obama had to install newer and less experienced scoundrels - that’s a good thing.

To be fair, he’s also not McCain, and Biden isn’t Palin. So we’ve got that going for us, as well.

We only had two choices - the party of Bush and one other guy who had a chance to win. I went to the polls to cast my ballet for “I’m not Bush” and Obama just happened to be standing there to receive my vote. It isn’t his fault the bar was set so incredibly low. When all you’ve had for a while is “F” performances, with a bracing bucket of arrogance thrown in your face for good measure, then a"C" and a pleasant smile looks like a pretty good grade.

From afar, it’s just a huge relief to have a proper politician in office, and one with an appropriate skill set; within those parameters it almost doesn’t matter what he does.
God only knows what history will make of the preceding 8 years.

From 31 points ahead to four points down tends to add credence to the notion that Brown is leading. YMMV.

Cite.

Regards,
Shodan

To me, Obama’s policy was to fix the economy now and then worry about fixing the future. “Unsustainable” is a nebulous term and policies can be put in place to reverse the “unsustainable” course once the economy is healthy again. Agree to disagree I suppose.

I have to disagree with your characterization of the article as talking mostly about TARP. The article says,

Emphasis mine. I do not think TARP included provisions for inventory building. I did not read it, so I could be wrong. If it did not have those provisions, that leads me to believe the article is talking about Obama’s stimulus.

You said,

Economic growth would have remained negative if not for increased inventory rebuilding. You are wrong. And before you say it was Bush’s TARP that was the real driver, they would not have mentioned inventory building if it was not necessary.

I noticed you mentioned nothing on Zandi’s analysis. Care to comment on that? Specifically this,

(never mind - missed second page.)

Well, no. You didn’t. If “we” means the RW and/or the Pubs, you never told us, the LW/Dems, “He’s not as lefty as you think he is!” Or if you ever did, it got lost in the noise, which consisted (and still does consist) mostly of “OBAMASOCIALISTMUSLIMOMG! :eek::mad:”

‘Even Charles Manson could beat him now’

It’s a comedy club at the local asylum, not a democractic nation.

I join with you in weeping for the tragic loss of life caused by the Panty bomber, which was exclusively Obama’s fault. That, combined with all of the other acts of terrorism on US soil with the resultant thousands of deaths in the past year causes me to agree completely with you.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

What if McCain had won the election in 2008?

CNN poll today calls it a dead heat… The people are not pro republican They are pissed at the pols for staying course on the economy and letting health care get eaten up by insurance companies.They are mad a dems for acting like repubs.

Pretty much with YogSosoth here.

To me he is delivering exactly as advertised and I am pretty pleased. B+ overall. With some hard work he might be able to pull it up to an A by the end of term one, but no one deserves an A this early on. He is finessing his way through some difficult tasks and playing it exactly I had hoped he would: he has been a slightly left of center moderate pragmatist. He is playing his term just like he would play out a long night of poker: don’t bet all your chips on one hand; fold early when you the odds are poor that you’ll win; play the odds; bluff rarely; read the other players well; and at the end of the night the other players look up to see that while they’ve each one some big dramatic hands and whooped it up, somehow you’ve quietly accumulated most of the pot.

I especially give him an A on health care reform (assuming it gets past reconciliation etc.). There were many ways to flunk this one in my books. The most obvious would have been to end up keeping the status quo. The easiest way to fail would have been by being a dogmatist, as the progressives would have had him be. Getting something past Congress that actually gets the vast majority of Americans covered in a way that they can all afford and that over a moderate term lowers costs, and that instead of trying to fix everything at once creates systems to figure out best practices, is huge.

Afghanistan ramping up as Iraq ramps down is exactly as he had advertised and I agree with him now just as I had during the election season.

The economy is doing better than I would have hoped. I am amused by the fact that the same people who felt that there would be ongoing decline in the GDP until sometime in 2010, dismiss GDP recovery as immaterial once it recovered to positive territory by the third quarter of 2009. Of course Obama can’t trumpet that while unemployment is still high but the fact is that unemployment is the laggiest of all lagging indicators. Jobs are assured of following GDP growth, but not until next year. And he is doing a reasonable job doing it in a way that allows us to best compete in the future in a global economy that does not favor us as much as it had in times past. Housing has stabilized; our mutual funds have recovered nicely so that I can pay for my kids’ college afterall.

Not pushing too hard on cap and trade while already trying to get health care through was the right choice to make as well, and the fact is that the economic meltdown bought him some time even while it made passage of cap and trade more difficult. (CO2 emissions are down with less growth.) As the economy recovers some will find that their new jobs are somehow “green” related, oil prices will rise, and selling the public on the package will be less impossible. Meanwhile his personal effort brought the Chinese more into the process (including some verifiability) than it was looking like would happen. The project is not yet turned in but the prep work for getting there before his term is up is very well done.

In fact he gradually bringing the Chinese into a more cooperative place in general. And Russia? Funny, all the noise that was going on that sounded like a re-emergence of conflict end of 2008, you don’t hear much of that now.

Security from terrorism? You want a 100% safe system I can give it to you. Just don’t let anyone board a plane or travel anywhere in any way. Short of that we are always going to have a balance to strike between accepting some finite (albeit very tiny) risk, and costs, including our being able to move about the country conveniently or not. If the worst we get is this hot pants idiot we are doing pretty well indeed, but Obama gets an A for reacting to it appropriately, not blaming the appointee left over from the Bush administration, but actually reviewing how things could be done better.

Social issues? I’d like to see him deliver on strong domestic partnership laws (equal to marriage legally, just not in name) at a national level while “marriage” laws are left to the states. That’s what he promised and while I can understand not wanting to distract from item one - health care - he can’t keep putting other things above it forever. He needs to do it during term one to get his A.

From my center left position I am pleased indeed and see the displeasure of both political poles as a very strong endorsement that he is getting it just right! I expect to give him an A at term’s end if his prep work delivers as I expect it will.

Most people don’t know. As a matter of fact ,no one does. It may well be , but conservative news will bend the story to suit their ends. More mainstream will run with a story that will be more interesting, whether it is based in truth or not. CNN said today the race is dead even for Teddy’s seat.

Actually, they would prefer to keep the health plan MA already has in place and don’t want the Feds monkeying with it. So, IMHO, HCR is having a negative effect on the Dem candidate in this case.

Incomplete on all counts. No great changes in foreign policy-we are still mired in Afghanistan. The banking situation is unbeleiveable-enormous bonuses awarded to thieves who continue their activities. Glass-Stegal act NEEDS to be reintroduced.
The real problem-the enormous deficits will make the future years bleak-we will either have a Jimmy Carter style stagflation, or just a decade long recession.
I thought Obama would introduce real change-unfortunately, we will just have more of the same (but with higher taxes and bigger deficits).
The partys continue at Versailles-the court doesn’t give a damn about the American people.

I think most of the folks disappointed in Obama are people who, during the Bush years, became accustomed to seeing the presidency as a place where a smug, dick-swinging ideologue could waltz in with a half-percent victory margin and treat it like an agenda-pushing mandate from Jesus himself. They felt that after suffering 8 years of that, it was their turn to pull some serious Che Guevara triumphalism. It’s wrong and it’s a bullshit cycle and I think Obama is wise not to play into that.

My grade for Obama’s Administration thus far: C

Pros

  • He did wonders for working towards reversing the damage done to the U.S. foreign policy, showing some very deft diplomatic touches (the speech in Cairo, for example).
  • He is pushing through a version of health care that will help some (though with some serious issues) and the economic stimulus seems to be, at the very least, working in the short term.
  • Iraq seems to have stabilized, and he is moving troops to Afghanistan, where they are needed.
  • Copenhagen was a joke, but Obama was able to get the Chinese to agree to some verification of reducing emissions (just not a legally binding agreement).

Cons

  • Many of the gains (Iraq stability, economic recovery) are quite likely short-term. The insurgency could very well just be waiting for our troops to leave for Afghanistan, and the economic stimulus did nothing to reform what caused the collapse in the first place (Glass-Steagal or anything similar hasn’t been re-instituted, and Goldman Sachs cronies run rampant, particularly Geithner).
  • Afghanistan is destabilizing rapidly and we have no true partner there, with Karzai doing little to rout the corruption from his administration. The State Department isn’t doing enough on this front, yet we committed 30,000 more troops.
  • Instead of putting his name on health care reform legislation, he left it in the hands of Pelosi, et al., which led to the loss of the public option, infringed on female reproductive rights, and is funded in a highly dubious way.
  • Bernanke as the Fed Chairman again? Seriously?

Overall, it’s somewhat of a wash, though I feel the cons outweigh the pros. For me, the biggest issue is the economic stimulus and the lack of transparency throughout that whole process. Looking at his administration, there are so many ex-Goldman Sachs people (Geithner, being the obvious example) swirling around and shuttling stimulus money towards those who caused the collapse in the first place. This, despite him having other very talented and intelligent economists with populist leanings that advised him during his campaign (Austan Goolsbee from UChicago, for one) who are now nowhere to be found.

So it goes.