Your response #114 is wrong, but it is my fault for bad coding, I was in a hurry. It is from the original thread, so it should’ve been sufficiently familiar for you to recognize material that we’ve already covered.
I have to say, this is the most appalling, abusive, ridiculous pile of crap I’ve ever seen at the Dope.
I think FinnAgain reads things where they are not present, as when he stated that I said he wouldn’t be able to earn a decent living, which I absolutely did not.
I truly don’t think I’m being an asshole here, although it probably would’ve been wiser had I not gotten involved.
-And FinnAgain’s aggression on the earlier thread and in response to me is way out of proportion to the situation.
My children are far more deserving of my time and attention than this particular idiot could ever be.
There are… the phrase I used was " Now, if nature and nurture hold true, we’ll have some pretty brilliant babies."
I don’t think this is particuarly arrogant though… intelligece is partially genetic, and partially enviornmental. Thus, two smart parents who have an intellectually rewarding home life are likely to have intelligent children. It really has nothing to do with me or ‘how cool I am’, or whatever… as I see it it’s purely scientific.
Eh, this is the Pit. People were being assholes to me, so I started a Pit thread. If I wanted a debate, I’d go to GD. As it is, I’m just Pitting a bunch of assholes.
I’m sorry. Cite? I have never seen evidence of this. smart kids are the product of just about every parent combination possible. That’s like saying blue-eyed parents will produce blue-eyed kids. Maybe!
Glad to please sweetcheeks. I won’t even charge you this time.
Sorry if I parsed your insults incorrectly.
You just wished my partner would be the better breadwinner so I could stay home, with my I had enough energy and my style of discussion was well suited to arguing with toddlers. Wonder how I could’ve drawn any mistaken conclusions from that!
Agression?
You coward…
You attack me, smarmily and sarcasticly suggesting “yeah, you should have children.” and I’m the aggressive one?
Fuck you you fucking coward, take responsibility.
If you’re spending your attention on them the same way as you did me, you’ll be laying on some sarcastic bullshit about they “should have children.”, or how if they state any of their accomplishments they’re braggarts. For what it’s worth, I’m just glad it’s them and not me who’ll be receiving the milk of your human kindness.
Personally, I don’t think I could’ve. Part of my point was not just that kids who are (or are perceived) to be sorta intelligent get shit, but that the more intelligent you are, the more shit you get. The more unlike your classmates you are, the more of a cause and a center for mockery you become.
Lute, take another look at the OP in the other thread, particularly this section:
The OP was pitting (in part) people who boast about their accomplishments in a backhanded way: using discussions of their children as an excuse to brag about themselves. So what does Finn do in his very first post?
He uses the cover of a post about the difficulties of raising smart children to brag about his own accomplishments.
I don’t see how knowing about the parent message board culture is relevant to understanding the crux of the OP, which was simply “bragging about your damn infants = aggravating”. I’m no expert of baby boards, either, but that didn’t stop me from comprehending the point of the OP.
I was exaggerating for effect, but yes, I do think the charge of bragging would have been less credible had you simply said “I was a smart kid who took some flak for it in school.” Not that saying what you said is definite bragging. I’m just saying that the whole “Alanis Morriset” potential would have been substantially lowered had you been more understated in a thread railing against self-flatterers.
But your point was not that you were smart; it was that some of the parents had valid concerns. Right? Why do we need proof of your smarts? It’s not like somebody is going to say “Cite?” had you simply said you were a smart kid with peer troubles.
See, this is where you come off as hyperdefensive and a bit narcissitic. This is what treis wrote:
No where does he even mention you (in spite of all your bolded “my’s”). Sure he mentions “fancy polysyllabic” words, but unless you feel as if you have something to defend about your word choices, why get so bent out of his shape about his opinion. He, just like you, was talking about his own experiences. Yet you’re the one demanding he supply a cite.
No, read it again. He said “people really need to stop blaming their lack of social skills on intelligent [sic].” Why are you taking offense at this? Haven’t you heard similar comments directed toward guys who blame their so-called niceness on their singlehood? Or women who claim that men are intimidated by their beauty?
Why are you so determined to perceive insult where there is none? Note that his post was not even right under yours; it was more than 10 posts down from yours!
Glad that you like that cliche.
Please don’t. Hate to see how you are when you actually have an excuse to be cranky!
You mean you don’t remember this thread? Several people had beef with what they perceived (and rightly so, IMO) as your superior attitude towards less academically-inclined people.
Or…you could take the more mature route and consider that maybe the fault (at least partly) lies with you? I know it sounds crazy.
Are you going to stop lying through your teeth at any point, or does your entire house of cards fall apart once you admit I wasn’t bragging?
I state that some of the parents concerns were valid, you dumb fuck. In particular, I was responding to one of the quotes about a parent who graduated at 16, because, yes, I graduated at 16 and yes, I worry about the same sort of stuff for my kids. And, since intelligence is both heritable and a fuction of nurture, this is not beyond the pale!
Listen moron, again, I don’t know what kind of pathetic person you are that you’d stoop to using your high school record as some sort of brag, but don’t ascribe your mentality to me. Hell, if I wanted to brag about academic sucess I’ve got much better stories. Get it you fucking moron? Not only was I not bragging, but if I was, I’d certainly use stories from college or grad school instead.
So, I wasn’t bragging, and I’ve told you this several times. Why you have no intellectual honesty and insist on lying? I have no idea. But I’d request you’d stop, as lying is one of my pet peeves, and you’re already being an asshole to boot.
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You’re kidding me, right?
You don’t understand why pointing out that some parents might have valid concerns instead of bragging might relate to an OP about parents not having valid concerns and bragging?
In any fucking case, I apologized and dropped that line of discussion. What the hell is the purpose of going over it? Yes, I misunderstood the focus of the thread, no you don’t understand how I did. I’ll cry you a river, later.
Again, I believe that in virtually all text based mediums, showing is much perferable to telling. If I can tell the specifics of my experience, why shouldn’t I?
Again, are you fucking kidding me?
If I’m talking about a first hand experience of being a smart kid and having problems, why do I need to bring myself into it? That’s a joke, right?
Give me a fucking break. I was the one in the thread stating that intelligence caused problems for socialization. Who else was Treis responding to? Jesus… what the hell ever happened to courage and honor? If you insult a man, at least have the balls to admit it.
Honestly, if Treis response was not directed, or at least inspired by what I said… who was it in response to?
Ah, my third favorite piece of bullshit that happens all the time on the Dope. Newsflash: your opinion is not justification for itself, opinions can be wrong, opinions can be hurtful, and only a coward reteats to claims of “it’s only my opinion!” once they’re stirred up a fight.
And yeah, that them thar “fancy polysyllabic” words is a clue, aint it? Especially since that was the word I used, and it magically showed up in Treis’ post? But naw, it couldn’t have possibly been in response to me. And if it was, why, it’s just an opinion! I shouldn’t take offense if someone is of the opinion that my difficulties in highschool were caused by me being an asshole. Espeically if the person doesn’t even know me. Yep.
No, and that’s idiotic.
Treis made a statement about all children, I made a statement about only my highschool experience. Seriousy, this is Sesame Street level shit here.
Because
A) I blamed my ‘lack of social skills’ (read, kids harrasing me) on my intelligence.
B) He discounted that as a possible reason, for anybody, and said that unless you were an asshole, you’d have friends.
C) By syllogism, that meant he was saying I was an asshole in high school.
What’s that got to do with anything? Someone insulted me, and I responded.
Moreoever, if a woman was so beautiful as to be intimidating, and someone told her she was being a bitch for pointing that out, I think she’d be pretty well entitled to get pissed off at whoever was insulting her.
Wow… more than ten posts!
Let’s give it the benefit of the doubt and say he wasn’t responding to me in any way. He was still saying that people aren’t picked on for their intelligence, and that the only excuse is that they must’ve been assholes. If you can’t see how this would be a criticism of me, I really can’t be any clearer.
Yeah, because being insulted isn’t an excuse! And, let’s allow that Treis was pure and innocent as the driven snow. How then do you explain all the other insults levied against me?
Mmm hmmmm.
But please, continue this very honorable behavior of blaming me for getting upset when I’m insulted.
Oh you’re fucking kidding me. Guess I forgot that one… as it has nothing to do with anything.
You’re pointing out how people denied that increased education helps one’s social standing… why?
People like to sling around the word ‘elitist’, but calling me an elitist for pointing out that educated people have a higher social standing than uneducated people is simply an exercise in stupidity, YHO indeed.
Yes, and I can send roses to the people who insult me.
I see nothing mature about being a doormat or allowing people to insult you without speaking back. Lots of people are stupid, should I be particularly upset when a stupid person thinks I’m an elitist for pointing out a fact? I should really feel ashamed because some fool gets something stuck in his craw when I did nothing wrong, right?
Whatever. I apologize when I’ve done something wrong, and not if I haven’t.
Heh. Your post in that thread certainly made me spit out my coffee, CS.
But I drink Instant Coffee and only speak two languages, so don’t listen to me.
There was no snobishness about what coffee you drink or how many languages you speak. The whole meat of the problem is that I posted something about how some parents concerns were valid, and then got jumped on for my troubles.
But please, if this thread needs anything, it’s more snark.
I think I’m going to run over a buddy’s and drink a few beers. A guinness sure sounds good 'round about now…
Oh, and, thanks miller and lute. (And anybody else I missed.) I know I can skip over complimentary posts when I’m seeing red, but I do appreciate your posts in this thread. Just wanted to make that clear.
For everybody else:
Have a good day y’all, including folks who seem to have a problem with me. I don’t even require an apology, I got my rant out, I’m not really all that pissed anymore, and any of y’all who want to bury the hatchet, I’d be more than glad. In any case, the sky is grey, the birds are annoying the fuck out of me, and I’ve got some beer to drink.