No, the logic that, once we had the proper tools and ability to study life at a higher level, allowed us to move away from such ideas. Before we knew how old the earth was, and had some ideas of how life changed over time, spontaneous genesis made some sense.
Keep in mind that the you earth creationists and bible literalists still believe in spontaneous genesis.
No, the reason that, once we had the proper tools and ability to study life at a higher level, allowed us to move away from such ideas.
We learned things. We were wrong at times. The difference is is that there are religious people who still reject germ theory, and instead rely on prayer for medical problems.
No, the science that, once we had the proper tools and ability to study life at a higher level, allowed us to move away from such ideas. Eugenics is not exactly related to science as it is related to morality. You can breed humans for specific traits, just as you can breed dogs, but it is not something that we should do, especially as, at the time it was popular, we had much less understanding of how traits were inherited, and quite a bit was taken on assumption and bigotry. We learned better.
As far as Thalidomide, how do you think it was discovered that it was a problem? It wasn’t clergy members doing tests and studies that discovered it’s side effects, it was science. A theological response would be to ignore the science and continue to give it to expecting mothers.
I’m not sure where the opioid crisis comes in. That’s a social issue. Science didn’t create either opium, nor addiction. Science did help in the creation of drugs that are very effective at combating severe pain, but it is not responsible for the irresponsible ways that people use it.
I’ve never heard anyone use science to claim that “sugar is harmless”.
Everything you pointed out here is where logic, reason, and science are far superior to theology. With those tools, we can learn new things, we can fix our past mistakes, and we can progress forward. With theology, you just keep doing the same things over and over, as there is no empirical way to tell if what you are doing is working or not.
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Evidence - What concrete, demonstrable evidence do you have against the existence of a God? I’m not asking for philosophical evidence but hard scientific evidence?
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What concrete, demonstrable evidence do you have for the existence of a God?
Science doesn’t prove there is no god, science just explains the universe without ever needing to invoke one. It is on the theologists to prove the need for one, not on science to prove a negative.
And you are assuming here that anyone who doesn’t have a religious conviction is fucked in the head and believes that the KNOW that they are right. This is a seriously flawed conclusion.
We don’t know that we are right, just as you don’t KNOW that there is no teapot in orbit around Jupiter. But, just as you can make a very reasonable assumption that there is no teapot in Jupiter’s orbit, we can make a reasonable assumption that there is no divine being influencing the universe.
I’ve never really met a proselytizing atheist. I have seen many atheist explain the reasons why they don’t believe in a god. And I have seen religious people incorrectly take that as proselytizing. It may seem to you to be smug when someone points to evidence that the universe was not created within the last ten thousand years, but that’s not smugness, that’s just being right.
That’s not what it means at all. It means freedom to follow whatever religion you wanted, and to not be bound by religious based laws that have no secular foundation.
If we were simply free from religion, then that would mean that it would have no impact in my life. It would mean that people couldn’t come to my door to try to tell me I am going to hell if I don’t go to their church. It would mean that religions could not advertise in public.
What I have found to be the most “militant” atheist are the newly “converted”. These are people who were raised religious, and have recently come to the conclusion that it was all a lie. They are angry about having been lied to, and not only want others to see the world the way they do, they also do so in less than productive manners, as they are really at this point, just reacting to losing the belief system that was imposed upon them from childhood. After a while they realize that most religious people aren’t really all that harmful, and that they just keep these little beliefs in order to make themselves feel better about the inevitability of death. The vast majority of atheists that I know just go about their day. The only reason that they would ever have to give their bleifs is when a theologist demands it of them.
I’m not in any sort of hurry to die, but I have come to terms with the idea that at some point, I will stop existing, and that’s fine, but when I first started doubting, that knowledge is what terrified me, and made me search harder and harder for evidence, any sort of proof, that there was a god and an afterlife. I understand that most people don’t want to go through all of that, and even if they don’t really believe in god and heaven, keeping that little white lie in the back of their head allows them to get through the day and to sleep at night.