Why don’t you try an experiment with a true analogue instead of a non sequitur. Go in a thread - any thread - and say “white trash”. Let me know how that works out for you.
I think “hand-stabbing” has been deprecated on these boards before now, so I’m happy to call for an embargo on the expression.
Does “butthurt atheists” work any better?
It still seems like you’re labouring under a misconception here Cisco. I did not address anyone as a hand-stabber, neither did I assert that hand-stabbing is a typical atheist behaviour. A generalisation would have been something like this:
[Someone else]: Look - the plane is full of atheists
Me: Oh. You mean hand-stabbers? Yes, I see them now.
But it wasn’t like that. “I’ve got a luvverly bunch of coconuts” != “all coconuts are luvverly”
I think Cisco has a valid complaint, though. I mean, believers are forever going around starting “omg athiests r teh retardz lol!” threads, and you have to expect the brights to snap sooner or later.
What in the world is “hand-stabbing”?
RTFT.
I would think maybe hand stabbing would be a Christian/stigmata sort of thing.
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_237.html
There are all sorts who self-mutilate for their zany religious beliefs. Some of it ritual.
As for religious zealotry, there are religious types who are not psycho-zealots, and there are irreligious types who are.
I’m comfortable with apathetic agnosticism. I don’t believe in gods or afterlives, I don’t believe there aren’t. I don’t spend any more time wondering about it than I spend wondering about the actual existence of cartoon characters. Witnesses on either side of the arguments do not provide consistent, compelling testimony or arguments.
It’s not that. It’s explained upthread.
Assert, no; imply, maybe. Your first quote could be taken to mean that you think an atheist is as likely to be vociferous and a hand-stabber as a religious person is to be a zealot. That may not be what you intended, but the inference is not unreasonable.
A religious person IS likely to demonstrate enthusiastic devotion to a cause. An atheist is NOT likely to stab someone vociferously in the hand. IMHO, of course.
Oh, I can see how the misconception arose, but I still just don’t think it’s reasonable.
let me ask: If the statement had been:
I would rather spend time locked in a cage full of ivory-billed woodpeckers than fall into a tank of man-eating sharks.
Would it be reasonable to say that I was implying all or most woodpeckers to be of the ivory-billed variety, or that all or most sharks are man-eaters?
It’s amazing, I assumed that “hand stabbing” was an expression. I did not realise that actual stabbing was involved.
I retract my previous support of the hand stabbing types. I’ll be a non hand stabbing atheist. Although even given the context of the phrase I still fail to see how it would cause offence. I imagine very few of atheists would actually stab anyone. I still get images of Dawkins punching the air.
BTW could somebody tell me what a “Wickin” is please, I googled it and found that it is a family name, but I’m sure that wasn’t what was meant.
Actually, in all probability, no stabbing ever took place.
Yeah, but there seems to be a lot of that about at the moment. There needs to be some kind of term, IMO, to describe that subset of extremist atheists that most other atheists are embarrassed to know.
Am I being whoosed? It’s obviously a misspelling of “Wiccan.”
But isn’t it amazing that I, who am a believer, did not think that Mangetout lumped me in with that subset of religious zealots who are likely to blow up planes? (The author of the linked article plainly does, but he’s evidently a tard, whoever he is.)
:dubious: Have a problem with being helpful, much? Why would I want to go laboriously through 50 posts of people alternating between masturbating themselves and pissing on others so as to fish out the small fragments of description that might explain what in the world “hand stabber” is? If you’d rather not help, then feel free not to, but keep your pissing to your own pant leg, I’ve no bone in this thread.
Sorry. Let me know next time which portions of the thread you can be bothered to read, so as to have noticed the expression, and which portions you couldn’t, so as to have missed the explanation and cite, and I’ll be sure to be more helpful.
One of these things does not seem to be like the other.
Anyway. The prominent and vociferous atheist, founder of American Atheists - Madalyn Murray O’Hair was once accused of stabbing someone in the hand with a pencil in response to them saying ‘bless you’ after she sneezed. There is considerable doubt whether the incident really did happen though.
It means that I’ve no interest in joining either side, not that I’ve no opinion of the fight itself.
Fair enough. I think this board needs a new motto - something about misunderstanding each other.
No whooshing involved. I did wonder if it was a typo, but wasn’t sure so I sought clarification. Thanks.