No. I said I’d re-evaluate. The funny thing is if you were half as critical thinking when it came to questioning the existence of god you’d be a supar-atheist too.
It seems the only horeshit around here is between your ears… somehow allowing you to operate your computer…
…might just be a miracle!
In context, he meant that each of us has a personal Fred. No I agree it would be interesting if different Freds could communicate - but there is no evidence of this. An uberFred would talk to all, and the result might look like communication - no evidence of this either.
People who believe their god is only for their group at least don’t try to make up rules for the goyim, so that is a step up for those who believe in a god for everyone - and thus wish to impose rules on other groups and nations also.
Arguing about god belief is very different from arguing about god’s existence, and the IPU argument only is for the latter. No one brings up the IPU during a discussion about religion and charity, say.
Now, everyone believes in god belief. Whether god belief is good or not, in general, is another matter. It might be interesting do speculate on god belief when something happens to prove that there is no god for all earthly religions.
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Wrong. Faster than light travel isn’t theoretically feasible as far as we know. Interstellar travel is perfectly feasible, There have been many methods proposed all well within the laws of physics. We don’t have the engineering yet, but we’ve had heavier than air flight for just over a century. So, flying saucers are far more believable than god.
However, in the larger context, I wish atheists wouldn’t fall for this sleight of hand. Why spend a lot of time considering how to evaluate miracles when theists haven’t presented any over thousands of years. Not one real burning bush, or resurrection, or parted sea. A extraordinary claims in their holy books that can be verified turn out to be false. Even non-extraordinary claims (like David’s empire) turn out to be false. Let’s not spend so much effort on weighing and evaluating the hamburger patty when the theists haven’t presented us with one. Where’s the beef? We’ve just got the bun of churches with nothing real inside.
What an outstanding ability to reason! You should consider switching religions, because you’d make an excellent “Clear”.
I wish the same for theists. I also wish we could all respect each other. And I wish I were more like Tris.
Huh.
I made a post awhile back about Native Americans, and the reasons for their spirituality, which , if you have researched it like I have, have read the books like I did, you would know that their belief system, their spirituality was based on gratitude. Gratitude for what we would call simple things. Gratitude for rain, for fertile soil, for good crops, healthy livestock, strong children.
What dumbasses they were. They had no clue about what we know now. About the scientific method, about how “you can’t prove a negative”, about pink unicorns and sky faries.
Just “simple” people. Whose civilization lasted through the millenia. Finally beaten down by those who used science.
Just stupid people, as determined by the recent crop of selfish, spoiled undergrads who think they have a handle on it all.
Nobody is going to touch the post I made about Native American spirituality based on gratitude. No, they are too arrogant to concern themselves with the quaint beliefs of a “primitive” people.
Plus the fact that they would come across as complete, intolerant assholes on par with the KKK if they did so. So, they’ll stick with lashing out at the more contemporary religious beliefs. Hypocrites. If you hate spirituality, then you hate ALL of it. So, come on. Lash out against the Navajos, the Lakota, the Cheyenne. Let us know waht assholes and deluded morons you think they were. Do it.
You know what your problem is. You seem to have no problem with religion unless it impinges on your lifestyle.
Your problem is with authority, not religion. You probably hated your teachers, law enforcement officers, most likely even your parents.
You need to examine yourselves, and find the root of your hate.
What in the Wide World Of Sports are you fucking talking about?
Yeah, that’s right. Hide behind your false incredulity, hide behind your denial.
You fucking hypocritical moron. You shouldn’t even be a mod, you’re so fucking dumb.
I would like to go on record as saying that native american beliefs are just as stupid and unfounded as christianity and the like. However, it is way more forgivable on their part because they were living in a pre-literate stone age society and didn’t know any better. We do.
Also, what the fuck are you talking about? :dubious:
I’m pretty sure czarcasm is much smarter than you are. If only because he can stick to a topic.
Fuck you. Who is talking to you, motherfucker?
Your next fucking post BETTER be about your opinion of Native American spirituality, and that goes for that Czarcasm turd as well. So let’s hear it.
Zambini, you seem quite angry. Perhaps even zealous in expressing your point(s).
There is some truth in what you say. Still, you are a wacky fucker.
Oh, you want to go on record as being a bigoted piece of shit.
Granted, You got it.
The Native American civilization is only a few thousand years old. And how old are you, you little tick-turd? What the hell do you think you know, you spoiled little over-educated, under-employed, world-hating, life-hating geek?
You know what your problem is? You hate the fact that you were born. You hate your shitty life, and you won’t be happy until everyone knows it. Which means you are going to spend your exixtence trying to spread your own personal shitiness all around.
Fuck you. Go and die already.
You’re full of shit. Here are some samples of it:
I don’t have to lash out at all forms of stupidity equally, expecially since not all forms of stupidity are created equal. Onlly somebody with only one brain cell would have to think “If you hate spirituality, then you hate ALL of it.”
I’m not that concerned with the stupidity of dead people, except to the degree that it effects living people. In the case of native americans, that degree is approximately zero. The same goes for other ancient societies, except to take note of and remark upon the examples of negative behavior that their religions might have inspired.
I don’t know - or care - about the old indian beliefs. So they have gratitude. I have graditude too; to things that actually exist and that actually have done things for me. What did the indians have gratitude to? If it was non-existent beareded sky-fairies, then fine, they were deluded morons. Which is perfectly excusable, since they had basically zippo science to show them that such spirits aren’t necessary to explain things. Ignorance of the (natural) law is an excuse, except where it’s wilful.
My problem is with idiocy, and idiocy-inspired evil, not with authority. Your attempt at mindreading is, therefore, a load of shit. Just like the rest of your post.
Psst. I don’t think you’re thinking straight. 
I’m in my mid thirties. How old are you? Can we be friends? I’d like a stupid friend to have around… you know like Lisa Kudro on the tv show.
I live in a world where people as stupid as you can procreate?
I like my life, so I think I’ll be sticking around for awhile. Keep em comin’ though…
Zambini57, wishing death on another poster isn’t allowed. Further, you’re either trolling or at the very least being a jerk, even by the standards of the Pit. Cool it, or you will be taking a vacation from the boards.
Edited to add: After checking your prior history of warnings, your posting privileges are under review.
I’m curious about a few things. Who were they grateful to?
Were they equally grateful for droughts, floods and earthquakes? How about children who died young?
Were they grateful to the same thing as the tribe over the hill?
It is perfectly possible to feel fortunate about your life and circumstances, or to be in awe at our big universe, without believing in any gods. I’d say without being spiritual also, but this might be the very definition of spirituality for some people.
First, arguments against the possibility of faster than light travel aren’t the same as arguments against interstellar travel in general. Given that stars and interstellar gas travel across the distances between stars, we know that interstellar travel is possible; there are no invisible walls.
And second, we have evidence that technological life can exist; we are that evidence.
Your analogy simply doesn’t work, not even a little. We know that other stars and planets exist. We know that various forms of matter and energy travel between them. We know that life and intelligence and technology exists. We know that space travel is possible. We don’t know that for certain that the specific technology of interstellar travel is possible, but the evidence is that it is, even if it might mean taking millennia to do it.
What do we hear claimed about God that is possible ? For example, you claim that he exists beyond physical laws; we have no evidence that ANYTHING does so, or can. He’s typically claimed to be omnipotent and omniscient; no evidence that those are possible either.
It is CERTAIN that it is a possibility; we are the proof that it’s possible.
It’s certainly more evidence than the Bible. If you take the Bible seriously as evidence of anything, you’re a fool.