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Monty Python did it well before Dana Carvey.
You kids and your “old geezer” jokes. Back in my day, all we had was self-referential humor.
Alaric, you poor miserable dupe. Kerry did not vote against “marriage penalty relief”. I’ll bet you a million quatloos he didn’t. What he voted against was:
"To reform and restructure the processes by which tobacco products are manufactured, marketed, and distributed, to prevent the use of tobacco products by minors, to redress the adverse health effects of tobacco use, and for other purposes. ".
True- attached to this bill was an amendment (that was a trojan horse) that had something to do with the so called “marriage penalty”. And, attaching a “trojan horse” to a bill is something both parties do, but for the last decade or so, it has been the baliwick of the GoP. But Kerry didn’t vote against the amendment, you fool- he couldn’t (he wasn’t on that commitee)- he voted against the Bill. And the bill was about: "To reform and restructure the processes by which tobacco products are manufactured, marketed, and distributed, to prevent the use of tobacco products by minors, to redress the adverse health effects of tobacco use, and for other purposes. " Not marriage penalties.
Idiot. And- duoe, since that was exactly WHY the GOp included that silly -assed amendment, so as to say later “But Democrat xxx voted against a tax cut!”. They didn’t. They voted against “To reform and restructure the processes by which tobacco products are manufactured, marketed, and distributed, to prevent the use of tobacco products by minors, to redress the adverse health effects of tobacco use, and for other purposes.”
Got it? It wasn’t a Marriage penalty tax cut bill, it was a bill to “To reform and restructure the processes by which tobacco products are manufactured, marketed, and distributed, to prevent the use of tobacco products by minors, to redress the adverse health effects of tobacco use, and for other purposes.” :rolleyes: And- after a dozen amendments, it likely wasn’t about that anymore, either… :dubious:
“The Four Yorkshiremen” predates Monty Python. 
Oh, and it’s not just Alaric, or the GoP. If you ever see something like “Candidate xxxx voted against the Bill to promote Motherhood & Applepie”, you can be sure that there was some “poison pill” or “trojan horse” rider attached to it. This trick is at least a century old.
Why on earth I typed “alaric” when the poster under discussion is “athelas”, I’ll never know. Brain fart? :smack:
You’ve goth him under your skin? 
Oww! 
Perhaps, but that doesn’t mean that to be misunderstood is to be great. A moron can be misunderstood. In the case of Dubya, a moron frequently is.
Nope, if people don’t “get” what you’re trying to put across, it means you’re too brilliant for mere mortals to grasp,not that you’re totally incoherent. At least that’s what fans of certain directors keep crying when people dismiss movies as “a waste of fucking time since it makes no goddamn sense”…
To be great is to be misunderstood.
But that does not mean to be misunderstood is to be great.
Otherwise I’m at my greatest just after a root canal.
athelas doesn’t seem to understand any of the Dopers in this thread. That means, to him at least, we’re all great.