You can’t disagree - you don’t know what I’ve been through.
Aha, but I didn’t say that the rhetoric you used was wrong or too harsh.
Oh, you were provoked? And then you got angry? And now you consider yourself a victim?
Gosh, is that how that works? But… only for you, though, and your precious troll “feelings”.
Not for the people with years and years of IRL provocation. No, they don’t get to be angry, they must debate like good, articulate logic robots.
Oh, there’s irony, all right…
Nope. But then, I’m not the one telling justifiably angry people to calm down. Now, why would someone do that, if justifiable anger isn’t a bad thing? :dubious:
Suuure you are…
If I believed you were sympathetic, I’d give a shit. Maybe if you had as many posts condemning racists as telling anti-racists they’re just Angry Blacks, you’d have a shred of credibility. As it stands, you don’t. Compounded by what you post in the feminist threads, I don’t believe you’re on my side in anything, at all.
Let me expand on this, lest you think I think you’re also a fake feminist - I don’t.
But you can post something like this (emphasis mine):
[
](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18825081&postcount=558) and not see that it’s the same for race, I don’t think you’re introspecting hard enough.
Yes.
Not much of a victim - I’m not claiming I was harmed. But yes, I was wronged in a very very small way.
We are both human beings. You are just as capable of wronging me and I am of you.
When did I say it was only for me?
I never said they can’t be angry. Of course they can. I’ve already said so. But they, like anyone else, shouldn’t be angry at the wrong people.
Don’t take out your anger on innocent people. It’s a simple concept.
If you’ve ever read anything I’ve said that makes you think I’m not sympathetic, you misunderstood it.
Or you misunderstood what sympathetic means. I oppose sexism. I oppose rape. I oppose racism. That may not always be the same thing as agreeing with you about everything. You are not perfect and your opinions may not line up with those all the time.
What’s a fake feminist? Why would anyone want to be a fake feminist, especially on an anonymous board?
Thank you for a perfect example of how you simply don’t understand what I was saying.
All I said was that someone can believe they are being bashed for a feminist opinion when they are actually being bashed just for being wrong about something. Feminists can be wrong too. They can even be wrong about feminist issues. Criticizing someone doesn’t mean you disagree with everything they believe.
I’m not sure why you even think this is controversial.
This is a great example of why your anger doesn’t serve you well.
I said I was sorry you have something to be angry about. Yet, instead of taking that at face value, you dismissed it. You want me to be someone you can be angry at, and when I offer evidence to the contrary, you dismiss it. At best, you could say you are confused because you think I’ve said other things in the past that legitimize your anger at me. But no, you are eager to believe I said mean things in the past, but when I say nice things, you just dismiss those because that ruins your caricature of me as a mean guy.
It’s a silly game that does nothing other than let you vent your anger.
Why, to troll, of course…
The implication here is that Cousins was wrong. He wasn’t.
Push, push, push the “Angry Black Man” narrative…
Why should I take you at face value when I already have previous experience of your technique?
“Evidence”? What would that be? Because I’m seeing none, you’re still calling me angry while excusing your own little tantrum as justified response.
And it’s not a question of mean or nice things - it’s the pattern that you show up to concern-troll, but you don’t show up to castigate racists. That one-sided “allied” behaviour is the tell.
So in other words, you’ve declared yourself the right to simply ignore or not believe aboslutely anything anyone says for any reason.
I understand you were a victim of a crime. If I accused you of lying about that just to be a troll, how would you react?
Certainly there are trolls out there who might do things like that, but you really should give people the benefit of the doubt, and expect the same from others.
That’s not the point at all. I wasn’t discussing whether someone was wrong or not in the comment you cited.
My point was that I can disagree about it without it making me a sexist pig.
Sip I gotta get me a mug that says “Lance Tears”…
How about for Cousins? Not that he was actually reported as “angry”, but if he was…?
Did it occur to you that you were wrong about my “technique” in the first place?
There is no pattern. You imagined the pattern, and now you’re seeing it because of your bias against me. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. You convinced yourself and now all you can do is see evidence that supports your belief, and any evidence that doesn’t, you just dismiss as part of that “pattern.”
There is no possibly way I could convince you, which is why I said I don’t give a fuck what you think of me. You are a completely unfair judge. So I don’t care and I don’t try.
I’m not crying. I said I don’t care what you think of me, remember? You’re the one who is emotional here. Your emotions are misplaced.
No, I judge by a pattern of posting built up over time…
You’re equating feminism with victimhood, now?
And I didn’t say you were faking feminism to troll, I merely answered why someone would want to.
Naah. Benefit of the doubt is for people who don’t have an established pattern of concern trolling.
Whatever you say.
Yep. You totally don’t “fucking” care
Sure, Mr Data, whatever you say. Gosh, I just feel so… Angry. For some reason. Who know why?
You didn’t serve any convincing evidence the last time either - like, where are your posts railing against the racists on the Board? By all means, link to them.
…“but I said it in a ‘nice’ way!”
No, you were mistaken about that “pattern” and then you proceeded to see it where it didn’t exist because you were looking for it.
No. And there’s another example of you not understanding me. But since you think I have a “pattern,” you can ignore my response and declare that I do equate feminism with victimhoood, right?
I was using myself as an example.
But that’s a circular argument!
You didn’t give me the benefit of the doubt in the first place. Instead, you decided I had a “pattern.” And now you don’t care what I say - you only believe what fits your “pattern.” It’s why you are so profoundly mistaken about me. Like I said, I don’t care, but perhaps you would care. But if you’re just looking for people to yell at to assuage your anger, you succeeded. I wonder if it worked very well though. Do you feel better?
Ah, so now you’ve switched to the “I think something and it’s true until you disprove it” nonsense.
I’ve never seen a post where you condemned the killing of kittens. Why do you hate kittens? Prove you don’t with links.
Your lack of response is what confirms it…
It was a rhetorical question, genius. Of course you were, it’s right there in the post.
But I’d already acknowledged you weren’t faking, so that’s pointless, isn’t it?
On the contrary - i had a whole back-and-forth with you about it, then I made up my mind.
Naah, it took until this thread to realise it was a pattern.
You keep saying it, but you keep posting…
I don’t know, let’s ask the first person to “yell” if he feels “fucking” better…
…well, do you, lance?
That’s a “no”, then…
You haven’t seen one where I urge kitten-lovers not to get angry at the kitten-killers, either. Analogy fail.
I don’t hate kittens. I love kittens. Especially with hot sauce.
You first. Then I’ll give you the link to my Fluffy kitten Pinterest board
Just so you know, if your goal is to convince everyone reading this thread that Lance is right, just keep posting shit like this. You’ve convinced me that he is right already.