A cousin regularly drives between the SF Bay area and Guatemala. He says the most dangerous highways are in Los Angeles.
Wow, you have quite the loving heart. :mad:
The cold temperature is going to miraculously find the homeless people homes?
Not what he means, he’s probably talking about a combination of them either trying to flee south or the cold killing them. 
And, yet, you still find plenty of homeless in much colder climes, like, say, Minnesota. (Something like 10,000 last year). So, no, 18 degrees in and of itself is not any sort of “thing [that] does wonders for one’s homelessness problem.” What a disgusting sentiment.
ETA: Sorry, quoting you, but post referencing and directed towards HD’s statement. It’s clear that what is meant is that the homeless move away (or die – I actually had not thought of that interpretation initially.)
Well, the cold killing them is a heartless, evil way of thinking about alleviating the homeless population, so it couldn’t be that.
And fleeing South doesn’t actual solve the fact that they are homeless.
So I’m not sure what he means.
It means they’re no longer defacing the landscape, and he (or anyone with his mindset) doesn’t have to make an effort to avoid looking at them anymore.
No, but it lets one invoke one’s Somebody Else’s Problem field, and say “My city doesn’t have a homelessness issue.”
I was going to try to quote everyone that reacted, but it got tedious. The implied intent of my post was that they’re likely to move somewhere warmer. The post I responded to was “Salt Lake City has a surging homelessness problem”. That’s specific to one city, which is going to be getting very cold for the next few months. I suspect many of the homeless that have been in SLC throughout the summer will find somewhere to live or move somewhere warmer. That obviously doesn’t solve the problem nationally, but it does significantly reduce the problem for Salt Lake City.
Well, that’s great for someone who cares more about how a city looks than the actual human beings that are homeless.
It’s not the appearance that concern me. It’s having to dodge piles of human feces and used needles (which, BTW OP, this link contains a handy map to see the dark underbelly of San Francisco) when walking around downtown that I’d like to avoid.
If only there was some way to remove the threat of human feces and used needles on the streets that doesn’t involve a callous “Hope the homeless people move out of here or freeze to death” type solution.
If there’s a city in the country that ought to be able to figure that out, it should be San Francisco, right? Brimming with feels and cares and liberal do-gooders, they ought to have this problem solved in a jiffy. Once they do, I’ll happily discuss whether their solution is applicable to SLC. Until then, vague allusions to this being easily solved if we only cared more seem … misplaced.
I have no love lost for SF nor LA for that matter. They seem to be concentrating more on straws or how big a house a celebrity has or other stupid things rather than actual human beings.
However, not sure why you think I expect a solution to be easy.
My mistake then. I thought your “If only there was some way to …” was sarcastically alluding to some obvious / easy solution to the intractable problem of homelessness.
Well, my guess is there have been actual solutions put forward by people studying the problem. And I would guess there is at least one tryable solution that doesn’t involve “Hope they move out of the city or freeze to death”
If you read the article I linked, Salt Lake City actually had a solution that was quite effective. However, it cost money and they harpooned it and homelessness is now on an upward trajectory.
"*Once lauded as a leader among U.S. cities struggling to relieve homelessness, the number of people sleeping rough in Utah’s capital has spiked in the past two years, as funding for its groundbreaking housing program dried up.
Homelessness is on the rise in the United States for the second year in a row according to a December report by the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
The increase has been particularly noticeable in Utah, which had reduced chronic homelessness by 91 percent over the decade up to 2015, according to the state’s annual homelessness report.
Experts attributed the drop to a “Housing First” policy, adopted by the state in 2005, which focused on getting people into housing, regardless of mental illness or substance abuse problems that could be treated after accommodation was secured. *"
Thanks. Not sure if I saw that link in your post or just skipped it.
So, there you go HD. A solution.
I’m afraid Utah’s much-touted “success” is at least in large part, hype and misunderstanding. You should read this whole article, but here’s a key bit:
That’s interesting. Two viewpoints on whether or not a program actually helped the homeless. Seems prudent to me to maybe study the issue and see, instead of claiming there are no easy solutions and simply hoping the homeless just leave or freeze to death.