Nope, she talked about her hubby.
Ignorance fought.
Thanks.
Not that new, but it seems to be working for the most part. There’s an interesting New York Times article featuring the first restaurant. Of course, these are pricey eateries. I haven’t seen any diners trying this, yet.
It may not be a physical line so to speak, but we go in order with just about everything except hospitals, which go by if someone’s dying over let’s say someone’s broken arm, which makes 100% sense.
We aren’t in a physical line at the DMV, we take a number. One person that does driver’s license pictures may be ready for the next person, but if I am there to donate a car or renew my registration, I cannot go next. It’s just like if party of 6 at a restaurant was next, but they only had a 2-seater booth available, well you cannot possibly fix the 6 people in a 2-seater booth, so the order may be out of order, but only because of factors that make it that it cannot be possible for the person that is next to go next. Are the people at the DMV or at the deli at the store waiting to get some meat sliced so they take a number, which are they in a PHYSICAL LINE? NO, they aren’t.
My point is, does that mean that people can still be fair even though we don’t have a physical line? OF COURSE IT DOES!! You don’t need to be in a physical line to RESPECT human being’s time, by being FAIR that who’s next is next if it’s possible.
The servers can still hand things out in the order in which they were taken in if they wanted to be fair and think of as if that would be THEM that when they are in a line or any type of situation where you wait, would they like people to have their turn first when THEY were next? OF COURSE NOT when they are hungry. They don’t see that though. They just are concerned with their tired feet and whichever is more easiest for them. IT’S all about them instead of the customer.
I would always be concerned with the customer and not treat customers out of order if I were a server, because that’s the morally right thing to do.
An example that just happened a few weeks ago. I was dining out by myself due to my husband was working and I had a vacation day to burn, which he couldn’t take off. Anyway, the waitress took 2 ladies drink orders at one table next to me. Then, she asked me if I needed anything, which I said another dr. pepper. Which instead of going get the drinks, she took the straw wrapper(I would have NEVER DONE THAT UNTIL AFTER, because clean up work can be done AFTERWARDS). Then, when she came back, she gave me mine first. See, if I would have been the waitress in that situation, I would have given the 2 ladies their drinks first, then mine. I would have asked if the ladies were ready to order, taken their order, then gone to put the order into the computer and then went to pick up the straw wrapper if no one else needed me. She COULD have done the RIGHT THINGS and went in order if she WANTED TO! WHY do you think she couldn’t have? You act like servers aren’t human and don’t have feelings. I would have done things in the order in which they came in. I wouldn’t have handed the drinks out in the wrong order. I felt bad for the ladies, but I cannot control the waitress if she went out of order, now can I? It would take time away from those ladies if I told her to put the drink back, so that would be stupid.
IT IS “PERSONAL” when the customers are paying their hard earned money and dealing with their time as well, it SURE AS HELL IS PERSONAL ALL THE WAY!!
They sure are by not letting ME(THE CUSTOMER) do the ordering. They disrespect me by making a decision that’s not THEIRS to make and by not giving me a CHANCE to place my order when they do that sort of thing.
They are disrespecting my TIME if I want something else or don’t want a refill. Never thought of that, did you? The Red Lobster waiter made me wait LONGER for my refill because I wanted a coke instead of dr. pepper that he brought me without asking MY PERMISSION first. I could have had my coke faster by him not wasting time getting a glass with ice and drink. Then, he had 2 trips back and forth for nothing to dump the ice and drink out that he did that task for nothing. It’s disrespect to the other customer’s time as well that he could have been at their table instead of getting an unwanted drink for NOTHING!
NO, it’s up to the SERVER to find out what the customer wants, because we are ALL DIFFERENT, so we shouldn’t be treated as the vast majority, because the server is serving individual people that have different likes and dislikes. They shouldn’t be treating me as if I am you or you are me, because NOBODY IS LIKE SOMEONE ELSE!!
It’s up to YOU if you want refills without being asked, because the server is not going to magically know you want that when MOST SERVERS DON’T DO THIS in general, they honestly don’t. It’s RARE! Most servers don’t want to waste their time if the customer doesn’t want a refill and I don’t blame them one bit.
It’s YOU that has special needs wanting refills without being asked so the server just MAGICALLY READS YOUR MIND, RIGHT? NOT! They don’t have ESP!
You would, because MOST SERVERS DON’T BRING REFILLS TO US WITHOUT EITHER US ORDERING THEM OR ASKING US! That’s why it’s a waste of time to say that if most don’t. I shouldn’t have to tell them “Don’t order for me”, because it’s common sense NOBODY ORDERS FOR SOMEONE ELSE WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION TO DO SO!!
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Get it through your thick skull that it doesn’t matter what the norm is. It matters what the customers want that are there. It doesn’t matter that MOST people want this or that, because the server isn’t going to always be serving people that want what most people want.
You are twit not realizing things can go in order even if it’s not a physical line such as the dmv where the people waiting to take their driver’s license pictures are at one area, but if I am waiting to get my registration renewed, I cannot go in that line next, but I can wait for my number to be called for the registration area. The people will still go in the order in which the numbers are for that particular thing I am there for.
We aren’t in a line when we wait for a table either, but they still go in order as much as they can possibly can such as like I said earlier, a party of 6 cannot be seated at a 2-seater booth.
You are an idiot not to realize that it’s not always faster to do things the most efficient way. That’s the truth, even a manager at Chili’s told me that when she asked me about my service, which I had told her we waited 16 minutes for our soft drinks, because since I ordered a margarita too, the waiter decided to make us wait ALL of that time, even though we ordered our food at the time of greeting which took 5mins before greeting us, still, our soft drinks should have been there by 10 minutes at most. He brought other drinks out for the party next to us that ordered AFTER we did. See how being MORE EFFICIENT doesn’t always mean faster for everyone, especially for the first people?
Wow-
I actually thought this was a real person until the straw wrapper popped up.
I guess it is indeed just-t a dinner -roll.
That’s except after ‘c’.
Has anyone else noticed there’s rather a lot of replies here written as though they belong in an article in The Sun? (Lots of randomly capitalised words, dislike of “Foreigners”, general assumption everyone agrees with the writer, that sort of thing…)
Springs1, you are indeed a unique and precious snowflake. And I say “unique” with a surge of hope welling up within me.
In the scenario you described about the server dropping off your refill on her way to serve the two ladies their drinks…I would have thought it odd and rude for the server to walk past my table with the refill that is clearly mine to deliver the two drinks (and possibly have to wait while the server takes the ladies’ food order) when the server could drop off my refill practically without slowing down. You see, I, too, am a unique and precious snowflake, and as you so emphatically stated, everyone is different. If you are the kind of snowflake that wants all orders to be taken and delivered according to the Springs1 Fairness Rule, then I am the kind that wants all orders and deliveries to be done according to the Cuckoorex Quickness Rule. Who knows? There might be a precious snowflake somewhere that actually wants things delivered in the REVERSE order of when they were ordered. Maybe some snowflake wants things delivered in alphabetical order. They’re all unique people, and how DARE a server presume that ANYONE wants anything done in ANY WAY? I suppose that’s why those poor idiot servers find themselves catering to the trends and desires exhibited by the majority of their customers instead of conducting a thorough interview with each patron prior to serving them.
Oh God! What if there are uniquely different snowflakes AT THE SAME TABLE?? One is going to be offended that the refill was dropped off first, the other will be offended if the refill ISN’T dropped off first…nobody wins.
Maybe unique and precious snowflakes with special needs like us should just eat at home where we can control our dining experience completely.
I’ve been enjoying this whole mess - on a car wreck level, you understand - but the straw wrapper comment just takes it almost to the level of performance art.
I learned something new! It never occurred to me that people change their refillable drink selection during the meal or that they don’t expect to be charged for this. I am not sure how the restaurants handle it but I know that after a meal, I get a cup of coffee and I have always been charged for it along with my iced tea I had with dinner. I would think refillable means of what you orignally ordered, not whatever you feel like drinking next. It seems, at least in some areas, I would be wrong.
I am not going to jump on the Springs bandwagon but I do know that most times when I eat out, my companions and I tip more if our drinks are refilled without being asked. I think it was mentioned above that trying to find the waiter when you’re thirsty is very annoying. I know my son will not eat without something to drink so if I literally have to get up and ask for our server, the tip is going to be a bit lower.
Did I ask for it to benefit me when it does? If I would ask for the server to take my food or drink back, that would make MORE WORK for them. That isn’t going to work to ask them to take it back. What would work is if the server deliver the food in the order in which it was taken in if it’s on the same tray. I cannot control what they do, now can I?
WHO said WAIT for them to order? The ladies would SEE with their EYES that there would be another drink on the tray. That would mean the customers would have expected her to hand them theirs, then mine, THEN take their food order. It wouldn’t make sense to keep my refill since she did go out of order to begin with by asking me if I would like something else, so it WAS MY TURN at that time is what I am saying. I beat those ladies to the punch per say with ordering my refill as far as ordering food goes considering they didn’t order their food at the greeting.
WHY would you think it would be rude to hand the drinks out in the order in which they were taken in? That’s FAIR! It’s rude to do what she did which was to hand the SECOND person(ME) that ordered my refill BEFORE the FIRST ladies 2 first drinks that were ordered. The first people that placed their drink orders should receive their drinks first if it’s on the same tray or the server has 3 drinks in their hand if they don’t have a tray.
The way things should be done is the FAIR WAY.
It’s about going in order. Going out of order is wrong. The waitress was wrong by doing what she did.
I’m curious does extend your own table? If you order your drink first and your dining partner second, but they get their drink placed in front of them first, do you also get upset?
I guess you’d have to dock the tip. But, since your misfortune benefitted me, I’d feel obliged to reward extra. Would we cancel each other out, or would it be more like a matter/anti-matter explosion?
Did you know there’s a rumour floating around that says life is not, in fact, fair?
No, because the tip is the same for me and my husband. Even when I have had separate checks with friends before, it’s the SAME PARTY, so that doesn’t matter. What matters is other parties getting their food or drinks out of order.
Life CAN be SOMETIMES FAIR if the server decides to SERVE FAIRLY. When a server delivers food or drinks off a tray, they can decide to hand them out in the order in which they were taken in if they chose to.
When you’re waiting on 4-5 tables, what if you honestly just can’t remember who ordered what first? I’ve tried to explain how crazy it can get - when I was really busy, I had this crazy, electric, nerves on fire feeling, the thought of keeping track of someone who needs extra sour cream, another person who needs a straw, another person who needs a check and a to-go box and remembering that one person originally ordered a pepsi but now wants a sprite, getting it all on my tray and then passing it out exactly in the order the requests were received? I always wanted to give the best service possible (because my livelihood depended on it - oooh rent, so selfish!) but I was just a regular person trying to juggle a huge number of tasks.
If I had an order for tray deliveries (barring hot food, or things needed for kids which I prioritized) I guess I started with the table farthest away, and worked my way back to the kitchen.
Although I would have liked to make everyone happy, I always knew it wasn’t possible. My goal was to try to please the most number of people. Obviously, you would have thought I sucked and given me a lousy tip. I would have been momentarily disappointed and then forgotten about you almost immediately.
But you’re perfectly happy making more work for them, with your complaints about them doing things efficiently. You want them to run back and forth when they could save everybody time by bringing out more than one thing at a time. You prefer that they make extra unnecessary trips, just to accommodate your overly sensitive idea of entitlement. Maybe the next time you go out to dinner, you might actually pay attention to your meal and, especially, your companion(s), and forget about keeping such close track of what other tables are doing. It would save your nerves and those of everyone else in the place.
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I already told Brown Eyed Girl this is not the Pit. Insults and name-calling aren’t allowed in IMHO. Since you continued it after that admonishment, this one is a formal warning: No more personal insults in this thread, Springs1.
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I didn’t call Brown Eyed Girl the “twit” first, SHE DID, so WHY can’t I do it, but she isn’t being fussed over it? What’s fair for them to do, is fair for me to do, otherwise tell Brown Eyed Girl did wrong. BE FAIR, REMEMBER, how I like FAIRNESS! What’s ok for THEM to do, is OK for me to do! She called me a twit first. She’s the one that stooped to the children’s level first.
I didn’t see that you told her about it. I will try my hardest not to do it again.
I read mostly what was written to ME ONLY and not concern myself with other stuff that doesn’t pertain to me. Sorry.
No, I don’t prefer them to make unnecessary trips. I prefer them to DO THE “RIGHT” thing by going in order of request given. It doesn’t save time for the FIRST set of people once they are seated. I’d personally rather wait longer in the waiting area than to sit for 10 minutes to get 2 cokes for me and my husband. I mean seriously, if the server cannot go in order, I don’t want to be seated until they 100% READY to get and take my order. WHY seat me if you aren’t ready yet and why take my order if you aren’t ready for it? It makes no sense. It’s necessary trips when you are talking about people’s turns being done the morally right way.