That is not the correct reading of either my post or your cite.
You are persistent, but still wrong.
“When COVID-19 is reported as a cause of death on the death certificate, it is coded and counted as a death due to COVID-19.”
“COVID-19, listed as the underlying cause in 415,399 deaths during 2021, ranked as the third leading underlying cause of death after heart disease (693,021 deaths) and cancer (604,553 deaths).”
From jamanetwork.com, “underlying cause of death” means “that condition or injury (or circumstances of the injury) that initiated the train of morbid events leading directly to death.”
So yes, death certificates commonly list a specific virus (in this case, Covid-19) as cause of death.
Now that, aside from being singularly unhelpful, would be very unlikely to be cited as a cause of death - for instance I have never seen it on an autopsy report, mine or anyone else’s. I mean, everybody’s heart stops, no matter what killed them. It’s a meaningless statement.
Hope that helps clear up your confusion. If not, there is little more I can do to assist you.
And I never said otherwise.
And I said nothing contrary to this.
And I said nothing contrary to that–in fact I specifically mentioned that in my post.
So that’s what…at least 3 things from my post that you’re responding to that I never posted? It doesn’t seem like we can have a fruitful dialogue when you want to respond to things I never typed. I would thus suggest that you were “of little help” to begin with, and I see little reason to continue the discussion when one party wishes to create false narratives to which they’d rather respond than the plainly written post itself.
Non-paywalled MSN repost:
And another delay (probably because of the election this year):
but that’s being Big Brother or Big Mother. If I post warning that this bar/restaurant allows smoking, then as customer/employee you can exercise free will by not entering, but still allow others to do their free will and enter… It doesn’t hurt you!
Are you being facetious? The whole basis of smoking bans in nightclubs, bars, restaurants is employee safety.
But as I said, you don’t want the risk, don’t apply/attend, nobody’s forcing you–that’s called choice
Good luck finding employees for your minimum-wage job that causes cancer, then.
Wow, I want to be an employee at a place where I have the right to not enter there. Permanent vacation, here I come!
So much wrong with that post. And a reply 2 years later on top of it.
Are there any other health regulations you would toss out the window?
42000 +/- Americans die each year from second hand smoke.
So yeah, smokers are forcing you.
Yeah, I mean all those stupid OSHA regs- the workers just dont have to work, amirite? 
20 years ago. What about today?
Health Effects of Secondhand Smoke | American Lung Association.
Secondhand smoke is a serious health hazard causing more than 41,000 deaths per year. It can cause or make worse a wide range of damaging health effects in children and adults, including lung cancer, respiratory infections and asthma.
It looks like the newest stats used on that page are from about ten years ago.
Weird how that number doesn’t seem to change.
Went down a little.
However, the exact number is not important- the fact that second hand smoke kills tens of thousands of Americans-
Last reviewed by a Cleveland Clinic medical professional on 01/18/2024.
Secondhand smoke causes over 7,000 lung cancer deaths and over 33,000 heart disease deaths each year in the United States.
What exactly is your point? That Second hand smoke doesnt kill tens of thousands of Americans a year?
That suddenly after just a decade or so- Second hand smoke is perfectly safe? Give me a break.
Either the numbers are important because you went through the trouble of looking them up and quoting them, or they aren’t important and we should ignore them.
No-My point is that newer numbers would give us a more accurate read as to whether the problem is growing, staying the same or decreasing at a desired rate.