http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=749697&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
Of particular interest
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Fucking pink-lungers. Back the fuck off, assholes!
Why is it that whenever someone compares Nazis to something they are always terribly off the mark and - oh no, wait, they are Nazis. Never mind!
::goes outside for a smoke*::
*disclaimer: Ghanima is indeed over 18.
It’s true. It’s totally commonsensical that I would have no interest in a product that delivers the stimulant I desire without tasting like ass. No, wait, that’s stupid.
That’s a bit disingenuous – I suspect that, as with flavoured coffee, a better class of tobacco is vastly preferable as a taste solution, and that unflavoured schwag is going to be more palatable than artificially flavoured crud. I don’t recall ever picking up mentholated ciggies.
Still, it’s clear that this is marketing strictly to children.
Just like flavoured coffee is aimed at elementary school kids.
Adults hate flavour. Everybody knows that.
Gee, Duffer, I never thought of you as the “flavored cigarette” type. Anything else you’re not telling us?
BTW, smoking in public is anti-social, like letting your dog crap on the sidewalk. Neither one does inarguable harm, but both are disgusting acts that others shouldn’t have to live with, and for more or less the same reason.
So, gonna pit the “clean-sole nazis” next?
Smoke Nazis? No smoke for you!
It’s just a rehash of the old argument they used to get rid of TV commercials, Joe Camel, and the Marlboro cowboy.
“From a common sense perspective” why wouldn’t some adults be interested in these products? I remember plenty of different flavors for pipe tobacco (whisky flavor, chocolate flavor, etc), cigars, and cigarettes (clove was one).
“Common sense” could be to “let the market decide”. Besides, aren’t there already laws forbidding the sale of tobacco products to minors?
To invoke a cliche phrase, since the Smoke Nazis are against all smoking, maybe they are hoping to hitch a ride on an anti-smoke “slippery slope”, and see how far they can ride it. You know, get the foot in the door.
First, where did I say I smoked flavored cigs? I’m pitting someone taking the choice from me. You know, choice of using a legal product? I don’t drink wine, but I’d be just as pissed as if they agreed to allow whisky sales but not Merlot.
Anti-social? Seems rare that someone dies as the result of a driver smoking too many heaters.
But it makes you feel uncomfortable, and in your moral superiority you see it as disgusting. When is your inauguration for Person Who Knows All?
I truly believe that people should be able to do what they like in terms of smoking, but I do find it uncomfortable to be around smokers, especially in a car. I will bite my tongue if I’m begging a ride, of course, but it does make the social discourse more diffult because I’m physically uncomfortable (trying to keep from coughing, lest I look like I am coughing to be rude).
I do, however, think this ban is just silly. Adults like flavored coffee, flavored water, flavored everything, but not flavored cigarettes? Please.
It’s all the same. A few people don’t like it, disapprove, think it’s disgusting, and the whole planet has to bow down. Any one of us could come up with things we think are gross too, but we don’t try to ban everything. We just look the other way, and maybe grumble a little to ourselves. We don’t try to take the choice away though. I absolutely hate yogurt and asparagus. They are nasty. Let’s ban them both. :rolleyes:
Bertie Bott’s all flavour smokes? I’d buy a pack just for the novelty value. Course then I’d have to buy another after I smoked it. Guess I’d quit after experiencing the rare vomit flavoured cigarette. -Maybe not. The lawmakers need to butt out.
They will probably be horrible. Maybe the thing to do is buy a few palettes full, store them away a few years, and then sell them on EBay to all the Collectors Of Weird Junk.
Since when have Glamour, Elle, and Rolling Stone been considered teenage mags? Rolling Stone, AFAIK, is a serious music mag targeted to adults, right? And the other two are targeted to 20- and 30-something females who want to be Rachel from Fiends when they grow up.
When I see Ranger Rick fire up a fattie, then I’ll worry.
All in favor of eliminating dogs and smoker say “aye.”
All in favor of eliminating self-righteous a-holes, proceed likewise.
Hmm. Has anyone actually ever met someone who took up smoking as an adult? Everyone I have ever known started smoking as a teen, or even a very young teen. So I guess the person quoted in the op had a point – adults wouldn’t be interested in starting smoking with this particular product.
However, teens and twenty-somethings seem more inclined to try flavored smokes, in my experience. Something that makes them look cool but doesn’t taste like ass. After a while, people want to have “real” cigarettes, and graduate to Pall Mall unfiltereds. Do you really think some 50 year old, after having smoked Pall Malls for 35 years, is going to pick up something that tastes like strawberries? I find it highly unlikely.
I agree that this flavered cigarette ban seems pretty idiotic. That said, general anti-smoking measures and your hypothetical ban on yogurt are completely apples-to-oranges. If, whenever you ate Yogurt, little bits of yogurt squirted out of your ears and down random passersby’s throats, and yogurt was carcinogenic, then you’d have an argument.
I just spent about 2 days solid cleaning up after my roommates who all smoke (if you haven’t guessed I don’t smoke). There were cigarettes everywhere…coffee cups, beer bottles (don’t know what the rule is as I don’t drink either, but I removed them all from the bottles so they could be returned), bowls, on plates, on the floor, everywhere for christs sake. There had to have been a pile 8 inches in diameter and about 4 inches high in the sink when I was done.
For this reason alone I’m against anything that makes cigarettes a more pleasurable experience for anyone. If it wasn’t for the tax money, I’d say ban them.
This may seem to be somewhat off-topic, but I feel it needs to be stated.
As a keen observer, and sometime resident of the US, I can’t help but notice how attitudes have changed in your country during my lifetime.
What really stands out and puzzles me is the degree to which Americans will assert their right to self-determination, as in; “The gummint ain’t gonna tell me what to do” while at the same time seizing upon any oppurtunity to attack an individual or corporation that failed to inform them of every possible negative outcome that may result from their own stupidity.
“Don’t you dare tell me how to use this stepladder”
“Why didn’t you warn me about the danger of leaning this stepladder against a power line?”
True, very true. It is apples to oranges. My post was pointed toward the sort of people who just want it banned due to their personal Ick Factor.
Aside: I heard from my cousin’s sister’s brother that yogurt is made with bacteria. GERMS! :eek: (just a little joke)
Would they be willing to take it outside? Not fight, smoke outside. Some of us smokers are willing to do that, if asked. Expecting you to clean up their mess is unacceptable.
Is it particularly wrong that I have an almost undeniable urge to run out and buy a pack of Nat Sherman natural mints? And not because I want a nic fix either?
Sheesh. 20 years ago (and more, I’m sure), a lot of kids started their smoking habit with clove cigarettes, because they smelled good and left a sweet taste on your lips. What I want to know is, what took the tobacco companies so long to figure out this might be a good marketing ploy? Was it a technological breakthrough that allowed them to infuse tobacco with these flavors?
Speaking of yogurt, plain yogurt has a fairly sour taste that relatively few people enjoy. That’s why there’s fruit flavored yogurt
If asparagus tasted like strawberries, I bet more people would eat it.