Bargain hotels in Las Vegas

Ok, first of all please move if this is not the right board for this.

My wife is taking a trip to Vegas with 3 of her (female) friends over the weekend March 14/15 and are looking for a hotel bargain. It seems all the good hotels (MGM, Bellagio, etc) jack up their prices on the weekends ($75 on wed, $400 on Fri/Sat) and that there’s no way around this.

Surely some Doper out there knows of a foolproof way to score a sweet Vegas hotel room for a song! Help out 4 awesome ladies celebrate a bachelorette party in style! Thanks.

Look to other hotels, your reference to ‘good’ above translates to ‘high-end’ in Vegas. Try the Flamingo Hilton, Stardust, Tropicana, Sahara, Riviera, Excalibur, etc. Although they are not the hotels that immediately come to mind when someone mentions Vegas, they are fine hotels and, while the rooms are not opulent, they are servicable.

Your ascertation that all the good hotels jack their prices up on the weekends is true to a point: It really depends on the weekend as to how the prices are adjusted. Three-day weekends and weekends surrounding special events (think super bowl) will see room prices skyrocket. Also, big conventions such as the CES and Comdex will also force prices up. Although prices generally rise on the weekends, it is usually not to the extent you mention.

Finally, give Hotels.com or similar a shot or try a travel agent. It is possible that the ladies can catch a junket package that would satisfy their needs.

I stayed at Excalibur for $39 on weeknights / $59 weekends ~December 20th, but probably only because the only people there are chronic gamblers and wedding parties (my friend’s wedding). We found the deal on their website.

Try here for a few tips:
http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/syws/vegas/vegas2.html

I worked for a major motel chain as a Front Desk Clerk/Night Auditor and I learned some tricks of the trade about getting better rates then are listed. I’ve made reservations in Vegas, but never worked there so I can’t say for sure the same ‘tricks’ work at the better places. I stayed at the Stratosphere and it worked when I made reservations.

First, let me say that front desk clerks are given a range of rates with which to work from for each type of room.

Second, find out if there is a convention of any kind going to be in town the time you are going to be making reservations. Or any other special event… I’m thinking about Celine Dion opening her new act in Vegas is in March although I don’t remember when. The point here is if they don’t think they have to lower their prices to sell out, you don’t have much leverage.

There are also different kinds of discounts available for different types of groups, e.g. AAA discount, senior citizen discount, government employee, corporate rate, berevment, even internet discounts. Generally, these discounts range from 10-30% from the rack rate.

After you’ve done your homework … and by that I mean finding out what will be going on that weekend and calling the hotels you are interested in and asking them what their rates are … the basic rate, the AAA rate, the company rate (traveling on business)… And by all means, don’t identify yourself while doing your research. After you are armed with this information you are ready to go to work to negotiate the best rate possible.

When you call to make your reservation, before you ever give them your credit card, ask them “is that the best you can do?” when they quote you a rate. If they say, yes, that’s the best I can do, tell them that’s to high and counter with something about $5 lower then the lowest rate you’ve found during your research.

The person should counter with something lower then what they previously quoted (with a chuckle in their voice at your rediciously low rate). Keep after them. If they aren’t going to be very busy that weekend, you can usually expect to get a rate 20-25% lower then the rack rate. If they are going to be busy, you probably will be able to get the AAA/senior rate which is usually 10% lower. Although, some places won’t even recognize those discounts for big events.

Note: Be prepared to hang up if they won’t negotiate. Get the name of the person you are speaking with at the beginning of the conversation. Actually, get the name of the person you speak with when you call to get the various rates. Also, get their title. If you are working with a reservations agent or front desk clerk, you can always resort to asking for the assistant manager or manager. Don’t get on the phone when you don’t have time to spend negotiating. You and the other person should be tossing prices back and forth for a little while… Each time you going up a little and them coming down a little until you reach an amount you are comfortable with. Sometimes this happens quickly, but usually it takes awhile.

And, yes, even if you do hang up on one place, or 2 places, or all the places, you can always call the best one back but in order to get the best rate you were quoted during your conversation, you will need to be able to say something like “I spoke with Mary about 1 hour ago and she quoted me a rate of X. I’m ready to make my reservation now. Can I do that with you, or do I need to speak with Mary again?” ~~~ No, you shouldn’t have to speak with Mary again, but throwing out a name they recognize as being an employee there will make it very hard for the next person to say they can’t give you that low a rate.

And finally, when making your reservation, after you have finally given them your name and address but before you give them your credit card number, ask them THE question one more time… “Is that the best you can do”?

I don’t know if this site is any good or not, but I did run across it one day when I was surfing and bookmarked it so here it is: Las Vegas Talk Discussion Board

If something doesn’t make sense, drop me a note. My e-mail is in my profile.

FYI, there are tactics that work really well when walking in off the street while you are traveling and decide you need to stop, but they wouldn’t help you in this situation. Not totally different then these, just a little different… Just so you know the next time you are on the road. :wink:

Good luck!

Since you’re looking for advice more than facts, I’ll move this thread to IMHO.

Why do you want a fancy-schmancy place? The way to DO Vegas right is to do it from the seedy side of town. You have to put yourself in the mindset that this is a social experiment, not just a vacation.

I stay at Jackie Something-or-other’s Plaza, at the end of Fremont Street. Clean, nice-sized rooms for 35 bucks a night.

I forgot about this site:
The CheapoVegas Guide to a Better Vacation

I stay at the Imperial Palace on the strip. Great location, cheap rooms. They have a $55/75 weekday/weekend special that includes 2 breakfast buffets.

http://www.imperialpalace.com/casino_gold.html

It’s not Bellagio but it’s a nice place, right across the strip from Caesar’s Palace.

When we got married, we stayed at the Super 8 and it was dirt-cheap. After all, you probably aren’t going to do much else but sleep (and/or sex) in a hotel room in Vegas. Cheesy is good!

Check the internet (hotel.com, half.com) and the hotel’s own website (they often have internet specials). Vegas has a slew of websites devoted to cheaper rates at hotels.

An anecdote/caveat: We got a decent rate at the Riviera (one of the few places along the Strip that will allow a Saturday night-only weekend reservation), which is a decent hotel. Upon checkout, however, they tried to hidden charge me to the tune of almost $15! It was for a “booking fee”. When I called to inquire, the man said it was for the hotel to make the reservation for me, (which was ridiculous, because I used their online reservation system and then did a self-check in. No paperwork or operator involved) but then he took it off without question. When my friends, who also made online reservations, called about the same fee on their bill, a woman told them that it was a “standard fee that everyone is charged” and wouldn’t remove it until they (my friends) insisted that mine was removed without question. I wonder how many people bother to check their bills.

I agree with what everyone has said.
The best way to get cheap rooms is to be flexible…sometimes the difference from one weekend to the next is 300% or more - it all depends on if it is a convention weekend.
You will also notice that slower weekends generally mean cheaper flights in and out of LV.
Wife and friends ideally should have chosen 3 alternate weekends and called around and asked for the best price.
But that is water over the Hoover.

They might try a Budget Suite type of thing…some of those are cheaper for an entire week than the price of a hotel for a weekend. They are building them all over the place now…quite a few on Las Vegas Boulevards south of Mandalay Bay.

But if there are four of them, and they get one room with two king size beds, and they split the cost by 4…well, come on…even with the jacked up prices, it isn’t going to cost them the world.

I almost always stay at the Westward Ho; cheap but clean rooms at the north end of the Strip and for $2 you can take the Strip bus south if that’s where you want to spend your day.

If you don’t mind being off the strip, I can also recommend the Gold Coast. They run a free shuttle to the Barbary Coast on the Strip, or you can go across the street and take the Rio shuttle to Harrah’s.

The Algiers rawks and it’s like $30 a night. Plus, it’s right across from the Liquormocc.

I’ll recommend the Golden Nugget as a class hotel with cheap rates (relative the Bellagio, etc. Not relative to Super-8). You couldn’t pay me enough money to stay at Circus Circus or Excalliber, which seem to have a high ‘screaming kids’ factor.

-lv

This is a timely thread. Thanks for the tips!

I just booked a room with the help of the cheapovegas site to go see Billy Joel & Elton John at the end of March. Yay!

My friend and I went to Las Vegas in May last year. We stayed at the Four Queens in Downtown Las Vegas and paid $34 on weeknights and $56 on the weekend. It is quite a nice hotel, with roomservice and pay tv, and the room is very clean as well. The only thing this place lacked was a mini bar.

I met someone in Vegas who told me to always look for a hotel downtown. Since downtown Las Vegas focusses on gambling and not shows and other entertainment, hotel rooms are generally pretty cheap. They make their money from their casinos, not the rooms. And it’s only about a 15 or 20 minute bus ride to the strip.

Love Vegas!

Another vote for the Imperial Palace. Great location, close enough to walk almost anywhere in either direction on the Strip.
I like being close to Caesar’s and The Venetian. Can’t afford the merchandise, but it doesn’t cost to window-shop.

I have a real soft spot for the Golden Gate- it was my first and happiest dealing job. The rooms are small, but very inexpensive, and the dealers and cocktail waitresses, as well as the wait staff in the Bay City Diner are all very friendly. Also, it’s easy to get a restaurant comp, even for a small amount of play- if you’re taking care of the dealers, the floorman will usually take care of you.

Also, if you’re looking for an inexpensive meal, the deli there can’t be beat. I think they have the last $1.99 breakfast left in town (only during certain hours, can’t remember exactly, I think it’s 6 am 'til ten am), and the best shrimp cocktail anywhere, for 99 cents.

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