Bathroom Supreme and Why I Dislike The Rich.

You know, I think I can determine why, aside from the obvious attitude reasons, that the poor hate the rich so passionately.

I make a fair living, but I need to work hard to do it and, in the past, working more than one job in a 24 hour period was not unusual. I somehow never managed to fall into one of those nice, $40 an hour jobs, probably because, when offered a way to them, I was unwilling to cut the throats of every coworker in my vicinity to get there, like previous employees were busily doing.

I’ve always had a soft spot for the working stiff.

I went with a friend of mine, who is in construction, to help him with a small tile repair in a wealthy couples bathroom. Actually, I went along for fun and to take a look inside one of these nice houses in one of the many, many gated communities around here. This place, I figured, started at around $900,000. It was huge. I live in a comfortable old $75,000 CBS home that was built sometime in the 1960s and have 3 bedrooms, each about 14 X 14, two baths – the big one in the hall and a small half bath in the master bedroom. The lot is 60 X 90. I have trees.
I have a carport/garage that always seems to be used for storing everything except the car. My neighbor turned his garage into a family room by sealing the garage door shut and paneling it over on the inside. He puts up with the big, main air conditioner air handler in there, though he cleverly covered it in paneling and opened up a duct to cool the room.

I think it looks good.

Upon entering this place on about an acre of landscaped lawn with my friend, I walked into a living room that ECHOED our foot steps with a complete living room suite in it that held an enormous, leather sectional and huge fireplace and highly polished, expensive tile floor. (The owner, a man in his middle years with a bankers hairstyle and politician-style glasses proudly informed us about how he had the tiles made from a certain color clay in Washington State to please his wife. I figured they probably spent at least $15,000 on that floor – enough for me to add a room onto my home.)

I will not bore you with the rest of the opulent place, but get to the point. We entered the bathroom and I walked into Crapper Wonder! My bathroom is a standard thing, you know sink-vanity-toilet, then tub and walls. Around 8 feet long by maybe 5 feet wide. Good lighting, tiled shower walls, big mirror over the sink with vanity lights, shiny, surgical-handle faucets, storage under the sink for TP, cleaners, towels and a few drawers for magazines and other things. Humming vent fan in the roof to remove all stink and shower humidity.

I’ve had to do with much worse. In one place, I could sit on the crapper, lean forward and rest my head on the opposite wall while setting a cup of coffee on the raised shower lip and lean one side against the corner of the sink. Cozy. <sarcasm>

The bathroom was a house!

It must have been something like 28 or 30 feet long, with big, frosted, full sized windows forming a wall at one end, festooned with those fancy, wavy, artsy drapes or curtains and loaded with enough potted plants to satisfy Tarzan. The floor was a designed tile in big squares with what looked like hand painted Mexican designs on each making up some mural. The walls were tiled halfway up in tiles that matched, only smaller and there were two sinks and two huge vanities on two of the walls, with marble tops, what appeared to be surgical steel trappings, copper pulls and stacks of colorful, matching towels.

Fart in there and it would echo!

There was on one wall a huge, multiple nozzled, glass shower, across from that a swimming pool sized bathtub that you stepped down into and studded with enough jet nozzles to make it look like a flying saucer. The ceiling was high, with two brass ceiling fans and recessed spot lights, along with low wattage DC mini-lights under assorted cabinets and recessed into the corners of the roof.

The Crapper itself – and bidet – was situated in a smaller room, with a great frosted window, complete with stocked book rack, small TV (oh, yeah, I forgot to mention the two small TVs in the main room of the bathroom) assorted accent and reading lights and a ventilator that hummed so sweetly and softly that you barely knew it was there.

A few stools and chairs were positioned in there also.

The colors were cool cream and beige.

I couldn’t have taken a dump in there. It would have been like taking a dump in a living room. BTW, the windows are those electronic things. Turn a dial and they go from dense, frosty opaque to crystal clear.

I kept talking in a whisper as my friend chipped out a couple of broken tiles in the glass shower (he making soft comments about what he and his wife could do with a shower with that many heads positioned in all of those interesting ways) and me thinking that a young couple could move into the same space as their first apartment!

When we left, I decided that if the rich can spend probably enough money for a single bathroom, which would build around 3 rooms onto my house, and that they had that much cash to squander, then something is definately wrong with the system. I figure that bathroom could have paid for 3 houses built by Habitat For Humanity and given 3 families homes!

When we left, my buddy told me that I did not even want to visit their playroom, because the resulting depression it would cause might require medication. He had this fixed grin on his face, but I could tell that he was wondering why he was busting his ass 6 days a week, working 10 hour days in an often dirty job when he would never, ever be able to even make enough money to afford half of what those people had.

I thought I was making good money.

I don’t think so anymore because I have visited the crapper Supreme! The Venus DE-Milo of bathrooms!

Er, sorry, I missed the part where you actually used the facilities?

You didn’t? You had the opportunity of a lifetime to pee into El Toileto Supremo, and you passed on it?

Geez. I am TOTALLY disgusted with you.

It’s not like I wanted you to try to use the bidet or anything–just taking a simple leak for all the rest of us Working Stiffs would have been enough.

Oh, well, I guess Life is just full of these little failed opportunities…

[sigh]

How do you feel when you view the news about the Afghanistan refugees? Better? I know. No consolation prize. I saw a movie called “City of Hope” or “City of Joy.” Patrick Swazey was in it. The poor people in India. – mindless rambling late at night/morning

CITY OF JOY was the Swayze movie. CITY OF HOPE was the much, much better John Sayles movie.

Is there really something wrong with the system just because a person can afford an opulent bathroom in a million dollar home?

You’re assuming that because this guy spent all this money on his bathroom he therefore doesn’t give to charity. (Or at least you implied it, since you mentioned what the money spent could have done for Habitat for Humanity) But he may actually be quite generous with his disposable income. And even what he considers a small donation might be more than you or I could imagine giving.

Even if he doesn’t give to charity, though, unless he’s a pimp or a drug runner, he made his money honestly and can do with it what he wants. I don’t begrudge anyone their palatial homes (and I’ve serviced my share of them). The fact that person A has lots of money doesn’t mean that person B has less money. In many cases it means that person A worked like a sumbitch to educate himself, had a little luck along the way, and landed in a position that paid well. And usually it’s in a high-pressure job such as the medical or legal field, where any mistake is likely to be magnified, therefore they have to work that much harder just to make sure they don’t screw up. Perhaps they stepped on their share of toes along the way, but that’s not a given.

Keep in mind, too, that there are plenty of people (and not poor people) who would look at the home you have and think, “that lucky bastard, why should he have a three-bedroom house with 1 1/2 baths?” To which you would reply, “what’s the big deal? I worked for it, didn’t I?” No matter where you are on the scale, there’s always someone looking up at you, and someone looking down at you.

In my case, it helps keep things in perspective to tell myself, “sure, these people have a huge house, tennis courts in their backyard, a pool, a four car garage, but their ants and bees don’t care how much money they make.” Ah, pest control, the great social equalizer.

Seems to me, it’s all a matter of how you choose to spend your money. If we wanted to, we could live in twice the house we have in a much classier neighborhood. But we decided we wanted a more modest house and a sailboat. We have friends who have a huge house and a screened-in pool and a 3 car garage, and he drives a 15-year-old car that he maintains himself - to them, the house is more important.

If you can afford to live in opulence, have a ball. I’m not going to lose sleep over it. In the end, we’re all worm food anyway…

You know, I always imagined farting to be the social equalizer. :slight_smile:

But I agree - if the guy worked hard for his money, who are we to begrudge him a fancy shmancy bathroom?

The guy doesn’t even have a urinal!!!

There are people who make more than you. Those who make less
than you. Appreciate the differences, or move to a communist
country!
Why exactly would you hate the guy because he has a nice bathroom? Geez, you said yourself you couldnt even go in there, so I guess its a good thing you dont have it-you’d have some serious problems!
:wink:
A quick note. The newer the house is, the more opulent the bathrooms are going to be. Selling point. Buy a million dollar brick ranch in the most desirable location in the country, and unless you redo it, its still going to have that standard tiny bathroom. When I was in high school, one of my parents houses was a fairly new executive home in Atlanta- the standard maybe $500K job that covers most of North Fulton.
They had 2 master bedrooms. I had one. Yep, I lived from 13-16 years old in a bathroom with a skylight, double sink, separate glassed shower stall, and marble jacuzzi bath with steps up to it. Know what? I still did the same things in there anyone else would. My family then and now is probably not much different from anyone else’s.
Will I ever have a bathroom that nice again? Not unless I get another job! Do I really care? Couldn’t less.
(Oh-speaking of pests-the great equalizers- I used to have a problem with SILVERFISH in
that great big bathroom. Can you NAME a more disgusting creature to end up bathing with? YUCK!)

Oh-one more VERY IMPORTANT point. My mother and I drove
through the Johns Island Habitat for Humanity in Charleston
a few months ago. I drive a nice, fairly new Mazda 626.
We had by FAR the least expensive, least fancy, oldest car
in that entire little neighborhood. Lexus, spanking new Cadillac, Mercedes, an Infiniti. These residents supposedly
need shelter provided for them. I think thats where the system fails, not with some guy who bought a beautiful bathroom for his wife with money HE earned.

Hey! Don’t rip my clients, they are the reason I can put food on my table :wink: (well, at least since Monday when I got laid off :()

I design those Supremo Kitchens and Baths that make you gasp. I recently completed a project similar to the one you described; 4-500 square feet, separate toilet room, multiple TV’s, Kohler (most likely) BodySpa system, Duravit/Hoesch/HansGrohe etc. throughout. A job like that will run approx. 150-200K in Chicago which is a pretty high priced market but representative of that level of finish nonetheless. Incredible, no? But seen in the context of a 4-5M house, it doesn’t seem so outrageous. granted I cant even afford one of the bath faucets in a place like that much less a 200K house so who am I to say…

Here’s my example of why you and I are luckier than those people:

My brother and I are talking about a mutual friend who just bought a (I’m guessing) $600K house. Which is 3 times the amount either of us would be able to afford. My brother makes the comment that K is so lucky. But I think that I am the lucky one. K works way too hard to keep what he’s got. His wife and kids certainly don’t appreciate it. All they worry about is what the Jones’ have and they don’t. So they keep hitting him up for all this extraneous crap. The man has mortgages up the wazoo. Plus I don’t like the way he talks to them sometimes. He told Mr. Mouse once that we are the only real friends he has, the rest are just people that around because he looks like he has money.

My point is that while Mr. Mouse and I struggle, we still love and respect each other, the kids (mostly) behave, the friends we have actually like us,and we still remember when we were REALLY struggling and a romantic date was pizza on the beach.

The measure of a truly great bathroom is not the size, but the quality of the reading material in it.

Well, he did say there was a fully stocked bookshelf in the toilet room…

One question: Was there a sink in the toilet room? I have seen a few uber-bathrooms with toilet rooms, but none with a hand sink in the toilet room. That seems to be a grave ommission to me.

the poor hate the rich so passionately?? Speak for yourself or prove that assertion. All the poor are honest and moral? All the rich are dishonest? For you what is the dividing line beyond which it is immoral to have more wealth? I find your jealousy despicable. Then again, jealousy and hatred carry their own punishment.

Whenever I hear about uberbathrooms, I always want to build one. The tub would be cut into the floor next to a window, and so would two planters at either end of it, where I’d put hibiscus flowers.

Note that I want to hand-build this thing. Nothing else brings out this urge in me.

By far the neatest bathroom facility I’ve ever seen belongs to my reasonably poor hippy cousins who live up in marijuana country (Humboldt County in Northern California). They built their house themselves, and one wall of their tub/shower is a big sheet of glass overlooking a beautiful sweep of forest down to the (rugged) pacific coast. And since no one lives on any of that land, it’s reasonably private. Of course, you have to walk from their to the outhouse if you want to use the rest of the bathroom facilities.

=)

After reading the OP I was ready to type up a fairly long repsonse, but reading through this thread I see it’s no longer necessary.

IOW, what DAVEW0071, sailor and CheapBastid said.

A must-see would be the men’s room at the Madonna Inn.
http://urinal.net/madonna/
The only one of the top 10 most fascinating urinals I’ve been to.
http://urinal.net/topfive.html#