Battlestar Galactica 2.19 - Spoilers Armed

Well, let’s think this through. If there were say, a trillion stars in the galaxy, not counting nearby galaxies, and you had 10 billion Raiders each which can jump from pretty much anywhere to anywhere, how long would it take to scout-out every star system?

I’d be surprised they haven’t already found Earth.

Perhaps we are mostly harmless.

The Cylons were created in the colonies.
Perhaps they felt no urge to explore.
How near is Earth? Did the colonists jump to Caprica from Earth or use some other form of interstellar space travel that doesn’t travel as far as quickly?

My guess is that Caprica Six and Caprica Boomer will make sure their first order of business is to box Caprica Lucy Lawless before they find themselves in a spot of trouble.

Maybe the new planet is surrounded by some sort of radiation field similar to the one around that station in the mini series.

Good news that there’s a third season in the works. Bad news if I have to wait till July! My Friday’s just won’t be the same!

Good point!
A download accident. A backup tape failure. :slight_smile:

I assume the colonists jumped from Kobol to Caprica. Others jumped from Kobol to Earth. Which is silly, but whatever.

The galaxy is only so big, vast as it is, the Cylons can spread out and survey the whole thing pretty easily, if they choose.

I’m not sure there’s anywhere they can hide. Even a planet surrounded by mysterious anti-Cylon radiation could be bombed from space. Wherever they decide to start over, it’s going to have to be defensible, not unfindable.

If you will change that to “the sphere of human exploration” I’ll agree. Else there are billions and billions of places to hide. Even if you can jump, you still have to jump to billions and billions of stars…wait, I take it back. :slight_smile:

Although come to think of it, Galactica Boomer and Cally have some seriously unfinished business. It’d be fun watching Cally squirm when the woman she killed in a jealous little tizzy over Tyrol, suddenly shows up.

I’ve merged the two BSG threads for this week.

That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard.
Wait, I’m arguing with myself!
What happened? Did someone merge the space time continuim? Do I have a spell checker?

Cally has already had to deal with Caprica Baby Boomer, who was pregnant with Helo’s child and who has been living on Galactica since Starbuck rescued them. This Cafe Bomb Boomer has the same mind as Galactica Boomer, whereas Caprica Baby Boomer remembers the same things but doesn’t have the same mind, a fine distinction that was probably lost on Cally. Hell, it’s kinda lost on me too.

Do we even know how badly Cally was hurt by the freaked-out Chief? That was a rough scene.

Will Starbuck get to be with Anders, or is it inevitable that he has to die, because couples in love aren’t allowed to last on dramatic TV shows? What would Starbuck be like if she were actually to be happy for a while, anyway?

Is there any way that Baltar will become President? Seems from the previews that

[spoiler]Roslin will remember seeing Baltar with Number 6 on Caprica, so she might be able to blow him in as a Cylon collaborator, esp. if she can get Zarek to believe her. That should be fun.

Also seemed from the coming attractions that Boomer would find her baby again. I wonder if Doc Cottle will take pity on her and tell her the baby lived. He just might, that contrary old curmudgeon.[/spoiler]

there was a preveiw talking about rescuing the caprica survivors…schwing!!!

looks interesting.

I think the preview for part two pretty clearly showed that Baltar wins the election.

He is shown telling Adama, “You have your orders,” in a very haughty tone. True, he could be being ironic or something like that, but I don’t think so.

My prediction: Baltar wins the election. As president, he learns about Baby Boomer’s continued existence. His “plan” to colonize this new planet is not likely to get much further before the cylons show up to end the season big-time.

Also: Smart money’s on Cally being a cylon. Ditto Dean Stockwell.

Am I the only one who’s severely disappointed by tonight’s episode? I just started watching about six weeks ago after reading an article about the show. I got the miniseries, season one and all available season two episodes from iTunes and watched them on my iPod at work during my lunch break and at home while smoking outside at night. I went through all those episodes in under two weeks. Now, I know that the show couldn’t possibly sustain the breakneck pace of the first season and a half, but a few episodes into the second half of this season (I think it began with episode 2.14), the show really started to go flat, IMHO, and I was afraid that it had already jumped the shark. After a very good episode 2.17 and an amazing episode 2.18, I started to feel better, but tonight’s episode was just…meh. I guess my biggest fear is that the show is that Ron Moore and his writers are making everything up as they go along or that the success of the show will drive them to pad the story with garbage episodes just to stretch out the show’s run. I hope they have a concrete plan to tell the whole story in four or five seasons and then bow out gracefully before the show turns into a mess like The X-Files.

Now that I’m done bitching, some things I’d like to see next week are some scenes of Apollo commanding Pegasus, more of Baltar (which I’m sure we’ll get) and some more of Caprica Six (with her Baltar visions) and Sharon.

On a funny note, my wife and I are expecting our first child, a boy, next month and decided to name him Gaius–before we had even heard of the new BSG!

Best line:

“Maybe I’m a Cylon and I haven’t seen you at any of the meetings”
I hope everytime they get a great guest star, they DON’T make them a cylon – that would just be wrong. There’s only supposed to be 12 meat models anyway.

12 Meat Models >Band Name<

Well, this ep is a lead up to next week. Felt pretty expositiony, but in a good way.
My personal theory

Baby Boom Boomer had a sub-program she was unaware of that led the lost ship to the habitable planet and the whole thing stinks of Cylon intervention

Other than that, nothing great this ep – saving the big stuff for next week – obviously.

I agree this was considerably weaker than the previous episode. But I think that was one of the best of the series, so it’s a hard act to follow. This was still waaaay better than “Black Market” and “Scar.”

During the scene between Apollo and Starbuck, I had to stop and think. Way back when, she was in love with his brother, and then contributed to his death. When Apollo got over hearing about that, they developed some sexual tension. Then they were on opposite sides of a coup, and she wound up meeting Anders, falling hard for him, but forced to leave him behind. When she returned, she & Apollo rushed into an embrace, then stopped short. Over the next months, he had an emotional crisis involving a “relationship” with a hooker, and she had an emotional crisis over leaving Anders behind, involving an almost booty call with Apollo. Soon after, she accidentally shot him. Now they’re having a conversation about her risking her life to go retrieve Anders. If that ain’t the definition of aaaaawkwaaard, I don’t know what is.

Anyway, I certainly liked this episode well enough. I think the most interesting question is whether Sharon deliberately, or even subconsciously, sent Racetrack & Co. to the habitable planet, presumably fulfilling her prophecy of a dark time ahead.

I also thought it was interesting that Roslin’s campaign manager said people vote their hopes rather than their fears, when it seems our last election was won largely through appeals to fear. However, I still think she’s right about the effect of the planet - it’s just I think it’s more accurate to say that people vote for what they want to hear, whether it be “We can get back to a real life on terra firma,” or “We have a simple solution that will prevent your children from being blown up at the mall.”

I loved Dean Stockwell’s priest. He and Doc Cottle should be drinking buddies. I actually think it would be interesting if Tyrol is a sleeper agent - it accentuates all the themes about identity and loyalty.

My husband brought up a good question: wouldn’t Anders and the rebels recognize all twelve humanoid toaster models, or at least more than we know of now? It certainly seems that the traitor Sharon and Six would. So how are the writers going to get around that to maintain the tension over sleepers, without it being stupid?

Oh, well, we did know about all 12 models before we came here, but there was this gigantic horde of space parasites that wiped our memories, and…

That could be a cool cliffhanger at the end of next week’s episode – after much shooting and drama and whatnot, the rescue party sent to Caprica finally makes it back to Galactica. The rescuers and the dozen or so survivors disembark from their Raptors, and there’s a celebration in the hanger bay underway…

…until the rescuees catch a glimpse of Tyrol/Cally/Father Dean, and all of them freak the frack out simultaneously. Fade to black, roll credits, and the long wait to Season 3 begins.

You know, Baltar told Adama he just needed the plutonium from the nuke. Adama would have been an idiot not to have the nuke’s trigger mechanism made totally non-functional before letting Baltar have it.

It would seem crazy not to remove the trigger, but Baltar is a genius scientist, right? I don’t think it would make much difference to Baltar. The plutonium is all either he or Gina would need to make a functional bomb.