That’s a good point. I noticed that, then forgot about it. Could it be similar to Sharon waking up in a locker room dripping wet?
If Baltar used radioactive material from the bomb to buld the Cylon detector, is there enough material left in the bomb to achieve critical mass?
I personally thought he was lying his ass off about needing radioactive material for his Cylon detector, though I could be wrong about that.
It’s pushed aside with a loud “BAMF.”
You’re not a Queer Proctologist? Uh, OK …
Yea, yea, I know … 
I was wondering about that should Dean Stockwell turn out to be a cylon. It would kind of suck to be that model. All the others reincarnate in young, spry and you keep coming back as a 70 year old man with an aching back, insomnia, and prostate problems.
“Well maybe I’m a cylon and I havent seen you at any of the meetings”
I laughed out loud at that line, he was fraking Great. and I agree he and the Doc need to go get a beer or 3.
Actually, if all you have is PU239 or U235, then you’ve got a fission bomb. The idea is to break those big atoms down and release some energy. Early fission/fusion designs used a fission trigger to create enough heat and pressure to detonate a lithium deuteride fusion core.
True, but if you have a Immodium P238 Modulat-or, that’s really all one needs.
That, and a 82 Gigawat Reactor.
Loved Dean Stockwell. Loved him. First time I saw him, I yelled “Al!”
Dunno - I’m divided on this episode. I’m one of those that looked up in surprise when it ended, because the time flew by, but I also didn’t think it was all that. Except for Dean - he rocked.
I don’t think Dean Stockwell is a Cylon for a very simple reason. Being one of only 12 models is a recurring role in this series, so we’d be seeing Stockwell on a quasi regular basis from now on, like we’re seeing Lucy Lawless. Of course, I could be wrong, but I’m just not seeing him taking on that kind of commitment.
I also really really doubt the chief is a Cylon. I think his self doubt and developing minor psychosis is very human and adds to his depth as a character. Having him turn out to be a Cylon would feel like a cheap out, and I’m fairly sure Ron won’t do that to us.
Callie? Nah, just … nah. Doesn’t feel right.
I doubt the Chief is, but I can see there being something miswired (hah!) in his head.
Still, there’s something weird going on. He was sleeping on the metal deck of a hangar! If there’d been some tools sitting next to him or whatever because he was working…but there weren’t.
I’m betting a Cylon we don’t know about set him up - I’m talking drugging or whacking him in the head, planting him there, and then waiting for events to take their course.
Of course, events would take a more entertaining course if…Callie is a Cylon. Callie would be a new archetype we haven’t seen before - specifically, the “adorable and vulnerable” archetype.
-Joe
I still have Cubits on Dee being a Toaster…
imagine the uproar within CIC on both the Galactica and the Pegasus if it’s determined Lee Adama is frakking a Toaster…
perfect strategy on the Cylons part as well, Boomer/Helo falling in love to prove that Meatbags and Humans are biologically compatible, Baltar/Gina/HeadSix being in love means the civvie government has also been infiltrated, and if Dee turns out to have the GSP, the command ranks of the Colonial Millitary have been compromised not once, but twice…
and if the “Rebel Alliance” of C-Boomer and C-Six back on Caprica can make humans realize that not all Toasters are bad, maybe there’s hope for, if not outright peace, at least an end to hostilities…
nahh… Zarek’s the toaster…
He’s Old enough to have served in the first wars, and has always been ‘somewhat’ of a trouble maker.
He even wants to see Baltar in power…
Hell, he was even in the original series!
(In all truth, I still think Gida(?) is the toaster in fleet… he ‘proved’ baltar’s innocence, he’s able to compute ‘outside the redline’ FTL jumps, he has not yet been seen to have any serious external relationships, and the Cylon fleet has always been one jump behind/away)
I don’t think any more of the regulars will turn out to be toasters, but I’m not rock solid sure about it. Which is good, because these things shouldn’t be overtly obvious.
Should another regular turn out to be a cylon, my first guess is Gaeta. We don’t see THAT much of him, and he is almost reveres Balthar. He may well be influencing Balthy in subtle ways we aren’t seeing just yet.
As for Dualla … mmmmmaybe. I could see it, but I think plotwise that would play waaay to much into the “human-loves-Cylon” theme we’ve already seen a number of times.
Zarek? No way. I think the developing theme is that not all bad guys are Cylons, and not all Cylons are bad guys. Of course, Zarek isn’t exactly a bad guy. He’s just a human with very strong self-interests.
Yea, I bet you’re right. That would explain a lot.
FTR, I do not think that Zarek is a toaster… bad humor attempt on my part… for the writers to make him a toaster woould be a bad move, IMHO.
What i wonder is what is more important to the story… is it more important to ‘know’ or to ‘wonder’ who the rest of the 12 are?
I liked the way xenabot was introduced… but I dont want them all introduced that way.
I liked the way Shelly and Gina were introduced, and the humor/seriousness of both stories, and the affects on baltar.
I like knowing there are multiple Sharon’s around - in totally different functions.
But you have to wonder how important ‘overall’ knowing who the rest really is.
Did anyone else think the affair between Dualla and Apollo was contrived? I felt like the writers knew that Billy was leaving the show and wanted to give it pathos and drama, so they had Dee go for Apollo and reject Billy right befor he died. I could see her liking Apollo, but not so much his reciprocation. I thought he had it for Starbuck and the transfer of his affections to Dee seemed all too quick… unless he’s just lonely and felt bad after the thing with the prostitut and the big blow off from Starbuck?
It’s not that Dee’s not appealing, but she doesn’t seem to be Apollo’s type and I really didn’t think he liked her back after she confronted him about what was going on with them… his response, “I don’t know know what you want me to say!” was a classic “he’s not into you” line.
What did you guys think?
A hundred quatloos on the newcomer!
Personally, I’ll be surprised if we ever find out who all 12 human-form cylon models are. The tension created by wondering in any given person’s case is just too good and too useful to remove from the story entirely. That does mean they’ll have to do some fancy footwork with the Caprica resistance to keep that knowledge gap going.
We didn’t see all 12 in the cafe – do you suppose the cylons keep them segregated for security purposes, so that any human observer who might happen to appear on the scene only gets a partial picture? Seems far-fetched, but not impossible. I think it’s more likely that the resistance will get wiped out completely before they can be rescued. They are pinned down by enemy fire, after all. Rescuing Anders would probably mean both that (a) the Colonials would gain critical intelligence on the cylons, and (b) Starbuck would be part of a (presumably) happy couple. Anders’ shirt is looking redder by the moment.
As far as the regulars go, I’d put Dualla pretty low on the list of likely suspects. Unfortunately, I have nothing beyond a gut feel to back up that assertion. Cally seems more plausible, although like many here, I would hate that. It’s much more satisfying to view her Jack Ruby imitation as genuine human reaction to an assault on someone she respects or even reveres than it would be if it were latent programming asserting itself. Gaeta seems the most likely of the bunch to me. He’s young enough, there are plenty of gaps in what we know about him, and as others have pointed out, there are plot elements we’ve seen which would fit nicely with him being a cylon. Of course, none of those plot elements necessitate his being cylon, which is the beauty of it.
I would just like to reiterate: Cally is a toaster.
The Evidence For:
Cally is Young, as are most female toaster models (which makes me think the Cylon god does exist).
Cally has only been in the fleet a short time. She joined “to pay for dental school.” (As stated in “Fragged.”)
Cally is remarkably tough. She was shot in “Bastille Day” and yet was fit enough to survive a raptor crash and fight her way through the jungle for four straight episodes “Kobol’s Last Gleaming, pt. 2” through “Fragged”–only 8 1/2 episodes later (probably only 2 months or so, ship-time). Compare this to Starbuck, who we know is tough, yet spent five of those same episodes nursing a leg injury! (Starbuck was injured in “You Can’t Go Home Again” and her leg was still too damaged to fly a mission in “The Hand of God.”)
Cally “lost her nerve” in “Fragged” just at the right moment for Baltar to have to kill Crashdown, something which HeadSix seemed very proud of him for doing.
Cally killed GalacticaBoomer mk I - before she could reveal any cylon info.
Cally is a member of the flight deck crew, and they never did find out who “accidentally” let the securing strap on a rack of missiles get frayed to the point of breaking (and killing 13 of Galactica’s viper pilots) in “Act of Contrition.”
And, finally, what is Chief Tyrol dreaming about when Cally wakes him up? He’s afraid he’s a Cylon and what does he do when he sees Cally, of all people? He beats the s–t out of her. Because she’s a CYLON, and deep-down he knows it.
The evidence against:
Well, she’s not smokin’ hot, which seems to be a requirement for cylon female models, but she’s cute enough to pass muster.
They can’t all be smokin’ hot. Some of them have to be cute.
And in Callie’s case she’s a…“wook at me, I’m all sweet and vulnerable…pwease pwotect me…”
Makes me want to rent ‘Dental School’!
-Joe, obscure joke