Starbuck cuts her hair and decides to shape up. Check.
Tigh slips into an even deeper drunk. Check.
Probe from Earth with a virus designed to infect & kill Cylons. Che… What???
That probe was ancient. Ooh, this is getting cool.
What’s with this “projection” way Cylons view reality? Weird. But Baltar-the-genius seems able to keep up. Too stupid to delete the picture of the probe though.
The Hybrid is really weird. No, I don’t think it counts as a Cylon model. I kept expecting a little wooden ball to come rolling out of a tube though. Minority report says, “jump!”
[QUOTE=Grossbottom]
…The probe is really fascinating: didn’t the fourteenth colony leave long before the Cylons even existed?..QUOTE]
Yes the 13th tribe left for Earth over 2,000 years before the Cylon War. And Pythia chonicled their journey 1600 years before it even happend. Anyone else think it odd that the Hybrid was clothed?
Lessee, we managed to rip off The Matrix, Minority Report, Farscape, possibly STTMP, and every bioterror flick ever made, all in one episode. What the frak is the deal with the “hybrid”? Whose brilliant idea was that?
Frak. I was all psyched to get to know the Cylons. Turns out they’re one giant frakking scifi cliche.
Servicible acting in a couple scenes aboard Galactica. Grace Park side-boob can’t hurt (however randomly we get it, I suppose). Overall, this easily beat out Black Market for the bottom spot, which is really frakking too bad, because while that episode was a total throwaway, this one was actually pretty important.
I’d rant, but I’m too bummed out. Next week, c’mon next week…
Ok episode concerning the Cylons and Baltar, the beacon.
Crummy episode with Galactica. How much rebellious Starbuck, dipsomanic Tighe can we take? How often does this shit happen?
Although, I quite liked the part where all the Cylons are arguing with each other. Each of their arguments was perfectly in character for their particular model. It kind of reinforced that each model is supposed to be an archetype of humanity.
Although Simon’s comment about “taking human form” makes me wonder if they have recollection of an individual existence before they were skinjobs…
As far as the Tigh closing scenes went, I was expecting him to drink himself to death, to die of alcohol poisoning, looks like Saul’s a truly broken man, he’s lost his Wife, his best freind, his ship, his job, and he has to share the ship with a Cylon who’s been commisioned as a Colonial officer
truly a tragic fall for Tigh, and completely unexpected, hard to believe the hardass, hard-drinking XO could just…give up
I think he just meant the Cylons as a species, whatever it really means to be a species in their case. They don’t evolve at all in a Darwinian fashion, and their reproduction, with the exception of Hera, is no only asexual, but involves, so far as I can tell, no actual transfer of genetic information from one cylon to the next. Instead they pass on other forms of information to a subsequent “generation”, if a resurrected individual could be understood as such.
Something I don’t understand: One of the Fives expressed concern about the virus being transmitted by resurrection. Whah? Simon says (heh) this was inevitable due to their “taking human form”, which strongly suggests this is what we conventionally understand to be a viral pathogen, the little gene bombs our own cells know and love. I guess perhaps they could be afraid the “virus” might be something more like what we would recognize as a computer virus? Its code, if it were such a beast, could maybe download along with memories during resurrection? It’s transmissalbe by the “data stream” the Cylons appear to swim in? If it’s all due to that kind of information, what does being in human form have to do with it? And if it’s a microbial pathogen, how could it be transmitted by resurrection? Are they just covering all the bases?
Hrm. Perhaps if the virus causes delerium and madness, they’re afraid that the mental effects will carry over after resurrection, thus corrupting the copy? If the Cylon skinjob models periodically update their memories – as seemed to be the case with the Boomers – that might turn a biological virus into a memetic one.
A nice inside joke during the dogfighting sim would haved been to have the laser modules make the noise of the original Viper lasers from Galactica TOS…
I suppose. Certainly, if there were actual neurological damage, a considerable amount of the data stored in a Cylon brain would be corrupted, and transmitting that corrupted template to a new brain might itself damage that brain, in a sense, I guess. Not sure how that becomes contagious, though, since were talking simple corrupted data, not a packet of data that actively seeks to replicate itself.
I suppose its conceivable a virus could have a nucleic acid stage and a data stage of its life cycle, if it were somehow designed to attack cylons, but that would have to be one frakking elaborate virus. It would not only require its own biological code for physical replication, it would somehow have to be able to alter the brain of the infected individual in a coherent fashion, such that a data pattern is established which can be transmitted to a new brain, and can subsequently be replicated and transmitted again via whatever wifi network the Cylons appear to be connected to.
Hey, that’s actually not a bad idea for the show. I’m tempted to believe, however, that the writers kinda made a consistency foul there. Do I have to listen to the podcast to find out?
Ok. So Apollo is able to lose his weight in 2 or 3 episodes. M’kay. Sigh.
I’m male, and 41 years old. My metabolism changed when I wasn’t paying attention. I put on 25 lbs. (Mainly around the belly.)
When I finally noticed, I bought an excercise bike. All that has done is to improve my stamina, and tone up my legs. (Which is nice…) But the pudgy belly remains. This left me with the impression that losing weight (or more precisely, losing a jelly belly) is not that easy…
Do skinny folks really think that losing weight is that easy?
Do skinny folks assume that fat people are too lasy to lose the weight? (“Gone soft”, as Apollo put it.)
Could it be that the meatbag Cylon’s brains are actually a DNA-based computer? DNA-based computers are becoming reality, see this wikipedia article. Maybe the information that is uploaded back to the Resurrection ship when a Cylon dies is actually genetic code. This would also tie into the whole “they have evolved” theme, since what happens to DNA is the driving force behind evolution. So, it’s not inconceivable that a pathogen like a virus that is basically nothing but DNA wrapped in some protein could be a serious threat to the coding of a Cylon’s brain. Viruses are well known for their ability to mutate genetic coding (hence why many of them are implicated in causing cancer); if the mutated genetic coding in an infected Cylons brain is uploaded to a new Cylon, it too would have the defect. Presumably, the making of the human-form Cylons necessitated the use of a DNA-based computing brain, puttting Simon’s comment about how this was inevitable in context. Also, more WAG…I imagine that the Cylons have vaccinated or otherwise protected themselves against all of the DNA-altering viruses present on the 12 colonies, but they were unprotected against viruses they had yet to discover coming from Earth that were present on the probe.
…the Cylons still can’t invent the turbolift to get around.
I felt the emotion of Adama’s confrontation with Kara and Tigh. While Kara’s turnaround seemed like it took about an hour of real time and was a little quick, I’ll concede that as a necessity for television and imagine it took a little longer.
I’m also confused as to how a virus that infects the Cylons could spread through resurrection, but y’alls ideas about mental corruption and spreading seem good. I too think the writers were covering their bases. Maybe the contagion is nanobots, and the ancestral program that was the basis of the Cylons AI was also the basis of the 13th colonies probe’s nanobots.
It was funny seeing Baltar avert his eyes as he passed an 8 in … … uh, where was I?
It irks me no end when you have your question (where’s Earth) and then out of nowhere you hear about these scriptures (a blinking red and blue eye of the lion) you never heard of before and it immediately matches some science (nebula and pulsars). Can’t we create some scriptures that sound metaphorical and inspiring and then see some reality match it in later episodes? It’s such a cheat to introduce and match it immediately.
Did it seem to you that the Hybrid had an orgasm to make a Jump? No wonder the Basestars are so much better at Jumping than Gallactica. And yes, clothes on the Hybrid is stupid.
Seems like it would be hard for that to be true AND for Cylons to be so impossible to detect.
The idea that this illness is more like a computer virus that spreads through some wireless network is supported by the fact that the cylons weren’t willing to put on a space suit and go investigate, which should be a basically safe thing to do.
What’s up with the dark haired Six? Does that mean we’re eventually going to see a blond Sharon model? Or is Six the only I’m-bored-with-my-hair human archetype?
Didn’t Athena specifically state last season they’re not “jacked in” and “it doesn’t work like that”? But now it apparently does work like that?
Is Athena infected now? Can Hera’s magic baby blood save her?