Actually, that test does work as advertised, but only Baltar knows that it does. The test positively identified Boomer as a cylon, but Baltar lied and said it showed her to be human.
Either the Cylons have their own, better test, or maybe there’s some test that involves grinding a few pounds of bones into a fine powder. Great for dead bodies, not so much if you’re testing living subjects (and want to keep them alive). Hell, maybe it’s the Glowing Spine of Passion they’re testing for - you’ve got to grind up a bunch of vertebrae to have a large enough sample to detect the photocytes.
Just a nitpick: the volume is 27x, unless you mean that presumably the fleet would jump as far as it could each time. In which case the possible destinations would approximate the surface of a sphere, which indeed would be 9x.
Regarding losing the Cavil Cylons, I believe it was said that the Cylons had a way of tracking the Tylium ship, the one ship the Colonials can’t do without for any length of time. Increasing the area to be searched would make it a lot slower however.
Martial law would be the smart thing, except that to have legitimacy it would have to come from the Quorum first, which isn’t going to happen. The Quorum and the civilian members of the fleet are painfully aware of just how dependent they are to the military for their survival; but perversely this makes them MORE determined to assert their control. Possibly there’s a huge “chip on shoulder” thing left over from the first Cylon-Colonial war, when the military was perceived as having gotten too autonomous.
And technically, Zarek has a point: the military should NOT unilaterally declare peace or war, or make treaties with former enemies. By any democratic standard, that’s the job of the civilian government. It’s just that Zarek and the Quorum are absolute imbeciles not to.
What Cervaise said about the Cylon rebellion, but with a few more details: Having boxed the Deannas, there was now no automatic majority one way or the other on major decisions. Cavil got around this by the sleaziest of stunts: having one single Eight, Boomer, break with her line and vote his way. This, the lobotomization of the Raiders, and Cavil’s blanket refusal to even consider that the Final Five might be putting in their long awaited appearence, convinced the rebels that Cavil had gone too far. They removed the free-will inhibitors from the Centurions, without permission, and staged a mini-coup against Cavil. But then Cavil staged a counter-coup, the losers fled.
Not much has been done with that tidbit of information. I was under the impression that it was a leak…possibly the result of sabotage by one of the meatbags. Wonder if it can be/has been repaired?
Finding earth was human’s goal, but not the Cylon’s goal until mid-series sometime. Didn’t all the Cylons agree at one point earth was going to be their new home/conquest? I’d like to see Cavil’s reaction to earth, when he shows up.
Anyhoo, I’m overthinking now. It’s a story. But realistically, there’s a habitable zone around the galaxy, and the fleet is probably limited to scouting out that zone, and Cavil can scout out that same zone. They can’t play “ring around the galaxy” forever.
In other news, what happened to whoever nuked earth anyway? Humanoid Cylons got nuked by their own model of Centurions? What happened to those Centurions? I assume someone won that little nuclear war, right?
My memory may be shot, but I was under the impression that Caprica Six had explained how the cylons were tracking the Tylium ship. The colonists then had the Tylium ship go off on its own for a few jumps, creating a false trail. The miners then fixed the leak, and jumped back to the fleet.
I was remembering something like that, too.
Habitable zone around the galaxy? Huh? That’s a new one on me. In theory, they should be able to play “ring around the galaxy” indefinitely…if the fuel ship leak has been fixed, Cavil & Co. should have no way to find the Fleet again after a few jumps from Earth. The Milky Way is a huge place…head out in a direction as far away from where humans have ever been as possible, don’t nuke anything or otherwise leave evidence of the fleet’s whereabouts, and they should be in the clear. Of course, they won’t be, because this is TV, and RDM does not seem to be a “and they lived happily ever after” kinda guy…
On the other hand, Cavil pointed out that he and his kind are machines and can take however long it takes to find the humans. There is nowhere the fleet can hide with complete safety as long as they’re being hunted.
But was Cavil killed or not in the rebellion, and did he still have resurrection capability? Are we sure either way?
- I think it should be pointed out that Gaeta’s little speech to Starbuck was not really intended for her as much as it was to see who would get upset and leave, and who would stay and perhaps be open to hear what Gaeta had to say after they shut the door. It was a stunt to the extreme, not necessarily exactly what he might have known to be true in his heart.
And the reason why he got mad at Doc Cottle and the nurse was that they were attending Cylons instead of him - and he was feeling pushed aside.
Also, I must confess, I used to have the hots for Gaeta - but that is all gone.
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Also, even though the theory of jumping the heck away from Earth might seem like a good idea, I wouldn’t be too hasty yet. Someone or something provided Starbuck with a new ship - and that person/group must be nearby and might know where a habitable earth is.
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I just have one point to ponder about the upgrades, etc. Let’s not forget that at the initial invasion, the reason why Battlestar Galactica made it and none of the others did was because they were not upgraded and integrated in to the human network. Adama was a very, very big proponent of this. And he fought to stay out of network more than once. So I’m a little surprised by his willingness to let the FTL be cylon-ized. (hee hee - Simon was a Cylon - too bad he didn’t rebel - then they could be simonized!)
Anyway, I understand why they would want to do that - but I just think that letting alien intelligence in to your OS might prove to be detrimental later.
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And I agree, the pacing was slow but I also agree that this episode was a set-up tool for future episodes - a way to set the groundwork of several plot lines before we start getting in the very harried race-to-the-finale pace that I assume is coming.
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Did anyone else think of Ilia and Decker from ST:TM when they saw Roslyn and Adama in bed together? It just struck me as odd. Oh, and I wish my boobs were that perky looking in bed . . .
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I liked the imagery that Moore used in this episode: Adama continually having to pick up and deal with the trash (including Zarek) and Roslyn running (from her problems).
There’s more I have to say - but I think a lot of people have covered it already. Forgive me if I’ve repeated something someone else said that I missed.
So far as we know, there is no more resurrection ship technology. So, Cavil & Co. don’t have forever to track the fleet down, unless they solve that whole pregnancy thingy. That, and, doesn’t his crew only have the one Boomer? As in, they’ve got the Cavils, Dorals & Simons, and Boomer. Even if they solve the pregnancy issue, they’ve still got a leetle logistical problem… anyway, the question remains whether the lobotomized Centurions would be able to keep on after the skinjobs are all dust.
Oh, something else… when Starbuck walked out of the barracks, two fairly big guys got up and followed her out. Did anybody else think “self-appointed bodyguards?” That’s gotta burn, from Starbuck’s point of view, that she needs bodyguards.
The Cavilcade can return to the Colonies for fresh (and nubile) bodies anytime they want to.
It’s disputable, but yes there is a habitable zone to the galaxy. My problem is either the Colonials can quickly lose Cavil forever, or Cavil can scout out every possible star system the Colonials could hide in, and no matter how far you can jump won’t make a long-term difference.
Ignorance fought. Thanks for that.
Gotta question Cavil’s motivation to keep hounding the fleet, though. Meatbag cylons are mortal now. Earth glows in the dark. Ape has killed ape…er…well, that cylon civil war thing happened. There are only three known sentient factions in the galaxy. War sucks. Why not divide the habitable zone in to three parts, let each faction be assigned a part, and go their separate ways?
Granted, that would make for a fairly boring conclusion to the story…but it makes sense to me, anyway.
That was tried. Ask Boxy’s dad how that worked out.
Yes, I was squaring 3 instead of cubing it. Thanks.
No, I saw those guys as choosing to withdraw from the room, for their own reasons (“frak this, we ain’t listenin’ to no more”). Basically, cooperating with Gaeta’s tactic of stirring shit to get the room to filter out the unsympathetic. Basically it’s the same as me leaving the company lunchroom when my corner of it gets too overcrowded with people loudly proclaiming their allegiance to some political or religious faction or other.
If I had to guess, at this point, what would motivate the Cavilry is probably a combination of fear and revenge. They blew up the Resurrection Hub; they blew up Cavil’s immortality! That’s probably one of those unforgivable crimes.
Also, from the Cavilcade’s point of view, they have no idea if the rogue Cylons and the humans would ever just let it go forever. They could always plan some sort of retaliation sooner or later, so might as well strike them now while they’re weak and on the run.
That was the original focus of the Cylon attack on the colonies, and later hunting them. Sooner or later, humans will come looking for payback. Humans aren’t good at forgiving and forgetting.