Battlestar Galactica 4.17 - "No Exit" (spoilers)

Here’s what I’m guessing (this is speculation based on the official scifi channel promo, so I’m not using spoiler):

The preview for the next episode shows/implies that the Cylons take a vote about whether or not to stay with the Galactica fleet. The episode name is ‘Deadlock’ which harkens back to the vote that initiated the Cylon civil war. There are eight known Cylons in the fleet - Caprica, Athena, Tigh, Tyrol, Anders, Tori, Ellen & Boomer (who now considers herself a seperate entity from Athena.) They will take a vote, and the outcome will be a tie - four pro, four con. Caprica goes off in search of the other Cylon in the fleet to break the deadlock. The promos seem to suggest that Baltar will be revealed as the Eight. But I think that’s a deliberate mislead.

I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that Daniel is actually Lee Apollo. Here’s my reasons:

  1. Lee is definitely Mr. Sensitive, and e he is certainly the humanist, voice of moral reason who is the very antithesis of Cavil’s nihilistic attitude.

  2. Lee’s call-name is ‘Apollo’, who is the god who inspired artistic creativity.

  3. Lee is a darkhorse - in all the speculation of who may or may not be a Cylon, he never seems to get suggested. That alone seems to be a clue in his favor. I mean, of all people speculated to be a Cylon, he is the only person who seems to be mentioned less than Ellen Tigh.

  4. There seems to be a definite pattern of inserting sleeper agents within the 12 colonies’ military hierarchy (Boomer, Tigh, Tyrol are all officers, Gina is a computer tech who hooks up with a military commander, Ellen is wife of a high-ranking military figure). What would be a better cover than the son of a high-ranking military man with a loooong service career?

We already know that ‘the Old Man’ had an extremely rocky relationship with his wife. I’m expecting a scene in which the increasingly alcoholic Adama Sr. drunkenly reveals to his son that he was adopted. And then…Caprica will saddle up and say “Oh by the way, not only were you adopted, but…”

Only the Five, er, Four (“The Circle”, Sam called them) are shown in the vote. Not the skinbags. And it’s probably a tease anyway, like the usual SFC previews.[/spoiler]

Except that his papa knew him from infancy. Only those with no verifiable pre-adult past are candidates.

Or that. But he’d still have to have been to be created as a baby, not an adult.

I think the “Daniel” stuff is just to (1) wank the numbering system, and (2) create a hook for Caprica. As if anybody watching BSG wouldn’t watch it anyway.

Retitle BSG the “Who’s a Cylon This Week Show?”
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Easy. Just buy the “Cylon Detector” ap for your iPod.

“Hi, Billy Mays here …”

It’s nearing the end of the fourth season now. Have you been asleep this whole time?

-Joe

No, swimming in an Egyptian river. :slight_smile:

Read post #241, and you’ll see why I wouldn’t know you were joking. People are speculating that everyone and their sister is somehow Daniel. I really don’t think it’s one of the Adamas. Wouldn’t it be refreshing if Daniel were just gone and no one was Daniel or related to him?

If that was the case, he would have had to have since the Hub got blow’d.

-Joe

I’m sorry, I can’t parse what you are saying at all. Who is “he” and what would he have to have done since the Hub was destroyed?

I think the Cylon is Billy - Laura Roslin’s first aide. And he will come back, find out that Dualla is dead, and lead a bloody Rambo style rampage all over the ship after snorting the purple snot that Tyrol is pouring on the guts of the Galactica.

And he will run around in Laura Rosyln’s wig and do a Norman Bates and start singing jewish songs like Gaeta. And Doc Cottle will be standing near by, lighting up a cigarette, and accidentally catch the wig on fire and when Billy "stop, drop, and roll"s - he will roll in to a tylium barrel and boom . . .

the end :smiley:

(and yes, i’m joking).

WTF?

It would be refreshing if they swiftly established that, inasmuch as it would stem a few of the painfullly convoluted theories about Kara.

But, I actually think it is likely that Daniel is just gone and that’s it. His existence clearly came about to explain the numbering gap of the Significant Seven, and Moore – although, he lies – has stated in his podcast that he has no interest in starting over with the “who’s the Cylon?” game. Plus, the writers are rather good at kicking favorite fan theories in the nards, curbstomping them for good measure, and even deigning to rifle through their pockets for spare change.

Frankly, I think it amuses them to dangle speculation bait like that, then yank it away once people are hooked.

Does he still do them? I thought he was annoyed that they wouldn’t let him smoke or drink Scotch or mainline heroin or something.

The spoiler policy for BSG threads is:

Thanks so much for ignoring the policy everyone else in the thread has accepted. Really thoughtful of you.

podcast – No Exit, down at the bottom.

Spoilers, obviously. Possibly, lying spoilers, but still.

Pffft.

#7 is Kara Thrace. See, it’s Danielle. Starbuck is sensitive and artistic. It’s right in front of you, so obvious that now nobody will believe it and it’s the right time for them to pull the obvious.

It’s not Thrace or anyone else the skinjobs have interacted with. Otherwise they would’ve recognized #7 and said so.

Not necessarily. Apparently Boomer didn’t know about #7, since all the exposition we got about him was for her benefit. My take on it was that he was destroyed before all the skinjobs went into mass production, so to speak.

Daniel is not anyone that Ellen has interacted with, or else she would not have talked about John having murdered him. He was her favorite son.

And if Daniel was still around in any way, John could not have resisted throwing it back in her face, to twist the knife. That’s who he is.