Can you hear Jesus repeating the words you write here, ephraim, as he washes the feet of sinners?
I think you ought to read the parable of the Good Samaritan once more, remembering that Samaritans were the “godless enemy” in 1st century Judaea.
God is indeed called “Allah” if one speaks Arabic, just as he is called “Dieu” if one speaks French, “Gott” if one speaks German, or “Kami” if one speaks Japanese. In Islam, God is specifically acknowledged to be the God of Abraham and Isaac, just as He is in Christianity. I would no more expect a native-speaker of Arabic to refer to God as “God” while speaking Arabic than I would expect him to refer to my profession as my “work” while speaking Arabic. Instead, I would expect him to use the Arabic words for “work” and “God”.
CJ
Ephraim, from a historical perspective you must surely be aware that Islam and islamic rulers have been generally far more tolerant of different religions that has Christianity. At a mimumum, anti-semitic Christian theology has been used over time to justify the death or exile of at least as many Jews than Islam has. I would suggest many more actually but do not wish to sidetracked - all I am trying to point out is that if you equate Israel with the Jews then the “mark of the beast” could be equally well printed on Christianity as much if not more than it can on Islam.
You are getting your modern political perpectives confused with your religious beliefs.
Of course, there is no common desire shared between either Christians or Muslims to destroy Israel. The only individual fixated on destruction here in this thread appears to be you.
As Siege already explained: Allah is Arabic for God. Arab Christians use that word when referring to God. So you actually also claim that Arab Christians worship Satan. There is only One God, as I said earlier. The God of the Thora, the Bible, Al Qur’an.
And for your information: There is even no God called God. Words to name The Transcendent Creator of All are merely words = human inventions in an attempt to name what we can not understand or name.
Futher: You claim now even to know what Satan “cares” about. Maybe you have met him?
Wrong. Jesus was a human, a prophet of God.
Wrong. Satan is seen as trying to lead people away from God and from being a good person.
I could easily return your rudiness by saying that Satan is the one who makes you believe that a human is God.
Yet that would not only make me presenting myself as ignorant and rude as you are, but it would also be
- wrong because
a) I am merely a human, I have no insight in what satan invents, let be that I have insight in what God’s plans are
b) Al Qur’an states the following
Those who believe (In God and His Message), those who adhere to Judaism, the Sabians and the Christians who believe in God and the Last Day and who act with virtue, they have nothing to fear nor shall they grieve. Al Qur’an, surat al-ma’ida (V); 69. - I would surely gravely insult and hurt Christians posting here and do them wrong in an inexcusable way.
- I would insult in an unforgivable way the memory of my late mother who was a very devote practicing Catholic.
- I would place myself above God. Only God kows what is in people’s heart and mind.
- Hence only God knows in which way **you ** are honest in your belief and how you came to these beliefs.
I think you should explain us a bit what “the mark of the beast” means to you. I don’t see any bestialities in Al Qur’an.
Actually, Islam is the glue that binds all Muslims in their common desire to worship God.
Just like Judaism is the glue that binds all Jews in their common desire to worship God.
Just like Christianity is the glue that binds all Christians in their common desire to worship God.
Just like other religions form the glue that binds its followers in their common desire to worship God.
God has nothing to do with politics.
Your posts here have everything to do with your wish to be seen as an expert in M.E. politics.
Thus your posts have nothing to do at all with any religion whatsoever, and everything with your misplaced self-esteem, arrogance and pride and your complete ignorance about your own religion. Which makes it all even much worse.
I shall give you a line I use as my motto since I was a teenager, and which is in fact what every Muslim does when performing salat:
Quam salubre, quam iucundum et suave est sedere in solitudine et tacere et loqui cum Deo
In case you don’t understand Latin - which you should seen the fact you claim to be a scholar in Christianity - it says:
How beneficial, how pleasant and gratifying it is to be seated in solitude and to remain silent an to talk with God.
I think you would do yourself an immense favour by doing just that until you find your way back to the real teachings of your religion.
Salaam. A
The statement there is no God called Allah was meant to mean this. As the Muslims view God, he does not exist. Yes Allah means God and there are many words which mean God. But all Gods are not the same. Their God is not our God.
Jesus Christ is the God of the universe. All that deny him do not have life.
I apologize for confusing the word Allah with Muslims. As it was pointed out many Christians call God Allah.
So, Expert On Islam, tell the fascinated audience in detail how Muslims “view God”.
Further: When you come with statements and keep on claiming that my religion is religion of satan and bestialities, I would expect you to answer my questions. All you do is repost a former post and next you try desperately to escape from the fact that you said that “there is no God named Allah”.
In your new version Allah is miraculously indeed a name for God “but only when used by Christians”.
Further you tell us that “God” is not “God”
I think you should tell us which God you worship, because it must be an other one then God as described in the Thora, the Bible and Al Qur’an since you claim that this God is not “the real” God.
You could also start apologizing to me for your incredible rudiness an you could also start apologizing the the Christians present here for your incredible rape of the Christian religion.
Just a friendly suggestion.
Salaam. A
Then stop denying Him.
Libertarian, I think this New Prophet thinks that Jesus is in fact all alone the Trinity.
I don’t know… But it seems to me a beginning of an explanation of some of his weird posts.
Maybe I’ll go hiding now in a secret cave with the hope to receive a Divine Revelation which brings me an understanding of his OP.Not talking about all the rest… I prefer to take it step by step for not losing my sanity
By the way: Are there people in this thread who understand the OP? If yes… Please HELP.
Thank you.
Salaam. A
Satanist without knowing it. Beast without recognizing himself as such. Godless while thinking there is only One God… = silently and undercover heading for the madhouse… Of course a bit choicy about accomodation and service, so finding that safe heaven can take a while.
Then why do you present Him in a way that, at least in this place, will make people more likely to deny Him? Do you like the idea of people dying that much? If so, then how do you align that with worshipping Christ? From your witness here, it’s all to easy to get the impress you don’t want people to worship him so that only you will be saved. The Christ I’ll be worshipping in an hour and half’s time overcame death and the grave. The one you present here appears to encourage and delight in such things.
CJ
If it can help you, Muslims don’t need New Prophets of Christianity to be sure that Jesus is not God 
Salaam. A
Nor do Christians need new Prophets to tell them Jesus is God, but would someone please tell that to our friend Ephraim? 
back at you!
CJ
(It’s been a pleasure interacting with you, by the way.)
What a cop out.
Why are you “delivering this message”? Because you want people to buy into it, right?
So why won’t you answer the most fundamental question, which is why people should care what you have to say?
The reason for this thread is explained in the following verse.
Revelation 14:9-10 …“If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb.”
I´m not buying anything you´ve said AND I don´t have any evil marks in my hands or forehead; something´s not right here.
Ephraim, on its own, out of context like that, your reply makes no sense whatsoever. Why do you dwell on the highly symbolic, allegorical, obscure text of Revelation while disregarding the plain, simple words of the One you call your Saviour?
CJ
Coz he’s got nothing better to do. You really had to ask?
Quite unlike the typical Doper . . .
Look, it’s obvious that Ephraim is motivated by a desire to save human souls from Hell – which has been the main driving force behind the expansion of Christianity almost (not quite) from its beginnings. It’s foolish, but it’s understandable to anyone who understands anything about Christian doctrines. Apparently Ephraim is the kind of Christian who classifies as an eternally damned “worshipper of the Beast” any person who has not been personally saved by Christ in just exactly the right way.
That said, I still don’t see the essential connection between saving souls for Christ, and characterizing Arafat or Abu Mazen as the Antichrist.
This Just In…
Ecclesiastes 10:4 "All"
Mark 7:24 "of you"
Exodus 4:14 "must"
Deuteronomy 17:8 "worship"
Psalms 56:5 "Me"
Judges 9:25 "forever."
Matthew 9:2 "I am"
Corinthians 4:3 "your"
Leviticus 1:14 "Queen."
Luke 21:14 "Silence!"
John 10:1 "Bow before"
Acts 13:45 ** “Me.”**
Originally Posted by SentientMeat
So if Arafat dies before the Second Coming do you promise to post here that you were wrong?
Now, I hate to bump old threads, but this one is actually relevant given today’s (or actually last night’s) news.
Anyone know where Ephraim is (the poster, not Joseph’s son)?
:dubious:
Given that Ephraim hasn’t posted since March and apparently never subscribed, I doubt we’ll be hearing from him again.