Beasts of Rev. 13 - Arafat and his Prime Minister

Uh, Iraq is set to return to self-rule in June of this year, and our prophet, here has (surprise surprise) not mentioned a time frame for this supposed taking back of Jerusalem, etc. Therefore, there is no reason to assume that Bush Enterprises, Ltd. enters into this at all.

Doesn’t make the OP’s assertions any less silly, of course.

HOLY COW! TALK ABOUT STEAM ROLLING A JOKE!

ephraim—tell us the truth.

You’re really Fred Phelps in disguise, ain’t ya?

Come on Bos, that’s not fair. I can’t take Ephraim seriously, and he does seem to have a bit of an extreme religious fervor, but at least he writes well and hasn’t once mentioned “faggots roasting for all eternity.”

Psssstt!!! Don´t give him ideas

Leaving this so called “self-rule” joke aside, the OP explicitely stated

= clearly stated "present rulers"

So I am waiting for the OP’s confirmation about this in order to prove us that he gets his exegeses completely right and stands by it.

He could then also explain why there is nothing known about the sudden religion switch of Bush. One should think that his swtiching from sort of Christian to Muslim wouldn’t have gone unnoticed in the USA?
Salaam. A

He certainly has declared me dead and certainly has declared Muslims and Islam in general The Beasts. I wouldn’t know if that is quite in line with the rules of this board…

I would like to have some discussion with the poster about that. Because as far as I know I am not a zombie yet, I also don’t grow hair where it doesn’t belong yet , I don’t have some hidden 666 sign on my body as far as I know and I don’t have other signs of devilish appearance or attitude (I know, some around here would argue that one).

That is overall extremely disappointing and frustrating to me. I feel like an outcast in the (rather divided and scattered, but let’s not get difficult here) Beast Empire of Satanic Muslims.
Salaam. A

Oh, for fuck’s sake. Fine, have it your way. I’m not going to get into yet another of these, endless, tedious semantic arguments with you. Iraq, near as I can tell, has no single ruler at the moment. The OP obviously has not given his premise a whole lot of logical thought, on that I’ll agree.

Iraq is out of the picture now. They have already played their part. Hussien compensated the families of Palestinian suicide bombers and promoted terrorism in Israel. Their army no longer exists. Their people can still fight though and still have a hatred for Israel. Everyday Jihadists are coming to Iraq to fight Americans and the same can be said of Iraqis when Israel gets attacked by it's Arab neighbors.

So you actually admit that this part of your OP is completely incorrect.

What else is “out of the picture” when its wording doesn’t suit you anymore because people point out the flaws in your Absurd Divine Reasoning?

By the way: How long do I have before I am supposed to be dead?
Salaam. A

Hmmm, OK, in the spirit of not mocking you, hard though it is, here’s a serious question.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ephraim
The connection that has to be made concerning this prophecy is that 7 heads
are 7 mountains and the 7 mountains are 7 nations. In other words, when
mountains are used in scripture many times it is referring to nations.

Please explain why this is so?

Seven Mountains

Just what is prophetically meant by the word mountain? Is there other references to mountains in scripture to which we can compare to gain understanding? Yes there are.
Jeremiah 51: 24 And I will render unto Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, saith the LORD.
25 Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the LORD, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain.

Zechariah 4: 7 Who art thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone thereof with shoutings, crying, Grace, grace unto it.

Da 2:35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

Da 2:45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

Am 4:1 Hear this word, ye kine of Bashan, that are in the mountain of Samaria, which oppress the poor, which crush the needy, which say to their masters, Bring, and let us drink.

Am 6:1 Woe to them that are at ease in Zion, and trust in the mountain of Samaria, which are named chief of the nations, to whom the house of Israel came
These are just a few cases where mountain or mountains are referring to some nation. I’m sure a better study can be made but these verses do illustrate my point. Also these verses were not compiled by myself but by another astute Bible scholar. It was part of an article written by an individual called blindseeker.

So when Moses comes down from the mountain he’s really dismounting (HA!) a nation?

Is there a timeline burried somewhere in this esoteric reading of the Christian bible?

No sir. It is not a nation in every instance. The Bible uses word substitution. Such as the statement that the ten horns are ten kings. So when Rev. 13 talks about the beast with seven heads and ten horns it is really talking about a group of kings and nations. Let me know if you ever see a beast running around with seven heads and I will stand corrected…Ha!

No problem, just mail out the secret bible decoder ring and we’ll be all set.

Sorry to point it out to you once again, Divine Messenger, but you are already corrected on the flawed contenance of the OP which talks of the President of the USA as one of the Kings of the Islamic Beast Empire.

I would still like to know when you have decided for me to drop dead though. It is not that I’m not prepared and don’t have my earthly things arranged. It is just question of being at home in time to say goodbye to my loved ones.

Thank you so much for your understanding.
Salaam. A

Aldebaran, I don’t believe our devout poster wants you dead, he simply accepts that you’re doomed following death.

Oh and you’re being Pitted again.

I forgot to ask to the OP:

  1. Why do you believe anyone should believe what you believe that is written in the Bible?
  2. Why do you believe anyone at all would believe* anything at all* of what is written in the Bible if they choose not to pay any attention at all to the mere existence of something called The Bible?
  3. Why do you believe that what you believe that is written in the Bible should be the one and only correct interpretation with exclusion of everything written on the matter by people over the centuries?
  4. Why do you believe you are God?
  5. Who on earth has rammed all these ideas in your mind? Or was it the Holy Spirit visiting you?

Salaam. A

Well, Aldebaran, since, by this Christian’s standards, brother Ephraim is a false prophet, therefore a blasphemer, if you carry things out to their logical conclusion, he’s the one condemned to death, which means that anyone he condemns is probably doing all right. I’d say at worst we cancel each other out. Rather than bury myself in obscure, polylinguistic, esoterically symbolic semantics, I’ll go with the plain, simple words of the man my faith calls a Messiah and Islam calls a Prophet and say, “Neither do I condemn thee” and focus on what’s important.

Even if the world will end tomorrow and the Rapture/Armageddon/whatever you want to call it happens, if I change my behaviour because of that knowledge, I’m the worst kind of hypocrite, and I will not lower myself to that level.

Peace be with you,
CJ

Really? Very amusing but I do hope it is not by you Grey. I see you as much too intelligent (and educated) for that sort of childplay.
Salaam. A

1 I realize that not everyone will believe what I say, that goes for Christians as well as non- Christians. That is why I sign my posts with my credentials supplied to me from God. The Watchman of Ephraim Hosea 9:8

#2 The key word that you have said is choose. If you choose to deny God he
will deny you.

#3 The people who have written over the centuries did not have the privelege
of living in the end times. They only predicted things the best they could. Having
said that though their studies have also helped me put things in perspective.

#4 I am NOT God . I am the friend of God…

#5 You ask who rammed all these ideas into my head but I can ask you the
same question. Only I know the answer…

Btw do Muslims not have a 4 in there number system…