I dont think there is much of a connection between attractive faces and bodies myself as I have seen many a minger with an ass that belongs on a goddess. I also think many a ‘bad’ body with a pretty head on top is just a good body thats been under or over fed.
Lot of truth in that. I work with a girl with a body that most men do not find attractive, as she is past the point of even being what is called pleasingly plump but she is exceedingly prettyfaced and it gives her a sex appeal that a really ugly-faced woman with a hot body would not have.
I have seen numerous examples of women having beautiful bodies but not beautiful faces.
I, like some others, am much more attracted to the beautiful face.
Billions of dollars of makeup is sold, because it works.
Most of the “ugly” women you see, are not wearing makeup. There are few women who would not look good if makeup was applied properly. Most of the “pretty” women you see, are wearing makeup wether you know it or not.
As far as bodies go, most women would find plenty of men who would love their bodies if they were thin, trim and in shape. Size and firmness of breasts can be changed by plastic surgery to suit any mans particular tastes. I think most men who complain about ugly bodies, are NOT talking about women with firm breasts, and who are in shape. Therefore, what you are complaining about is not bad bodies, but bodies which were not kept up.
It shouldnt matter to most men what women look like without makeup(until/unless the woman stops wearing it).
Most of the older fat women with short hair and no makeup that you see and complain about, at one time, were considered knockouts before they got married.
Unless a woman is deformed in some way(very few), ANY!! woman under 50 can be extremely beautiful with the proper combination of makeup, hair style, diet, exercise, and plastic surgery.
There is nothing wrong with a woman making herself attractive, any more than it is wrong for a bald man with bad teeth and a beer belly, to go to a cosmetic dentist, get hair transplants, a nose job, go to a hair stylist, lose that belly, and work out to get big muslces. Of course , this only applies to tall men(I dont know what a short guy can do about himself).
In the movie:“Shallow Hal”, Gwyneth Paltrow played 2 looks of Rosemary Shanahan in some scenes of the movie(although there was also a stand in on some scenes with IVY SNITZER).
Gwyneth did not have any plastic surgery, and she also had the same clothes and hair style for both “looks”.
Gwyneth had the same face, same body!!! It was the same woman.
The only difference between her 2 “looks” was a few pounds and different makeup.
Just applying makeup properly and a little exercise can make a big difference in appearances of women.
Take a look at 2 different “looks” of Gwyenth:
http://www.etonline.com/movie/a10847.htm
The key words in Susanann’s post are “applying makeup PROPERLY”.
The movies do an impressive job of making homely women look good. That’s a combination of truly expert makeup, lighting, and camera work. The average woman (the ones I’ve seen, anyway) apparently cannot do this.
My own experience is that I can easily detect makeup on the women I’ve met, and the facial defects under it remain obvious to me. They look WORSE than they did without makeup, because now they’re homely AND coated with slime.
I’ve also known some very pretty women who insist on covering their excellent faces with makeup. It just makes them look like wax dummies of themselves.
Do any other guys have this same experience? Or is it just that the women around here don’t know how to use makeup?
Vlad, women wearing make-up in real life will never look as perfect as they would in a print ad or movie. Models and actresses have it piled on with a trowel, and then like you mentioned, use lighting and/or airbrushing to give the illusion of a more natural finish. Unless a woman is wearing a very light foundation and an extremely minimal amount of skin-toned colors, she will look like she’s wearing make-up whether she knows how to apply it or not. Many women choose the wrong colors and make-up type/tools for their skin, and it makes it look worse than it could.
You know a real good example of this is in tyra banks book
she showed a before she got made up and after she was made up for a photo shoot picture, to help girls realize just how much they do to look like that, its amazing
Genuine quote from my college roommate’s brother:
“Who cares-you don’t have to **** her face.”
I’ll never understand how he managed to pronounce the asterisks.
Jeez! What a rube! Thats the best part!
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Nor necessarily true…or at least the answer is more complex than this. For instance, billions of dollars of diet aids are sold and they generally do not work.
Frankly too much makeup to me looks worse than anything else. I have taken women on fancy dates (proms, formals, a night at the opera, etc.) who got all fancied up (lots of makeup, hair teased to a brillo-pad like texture, etc.) and I have yet to think even one of these women looked better that way than they did in jeans, a t-shirt and no more makeup than a bit of rouge and lip gloss.
Further, I see plenty of women at the beach who, through a day of sunshine, water and no mirror, clearly had no makeup on and looked great. To me the glow of a woman with windblown hair and reddened cheeks from exercise/sun looks great.
In short it is quite possible to look good without makeup and the woman by no means needs to fit into the 0.001% supermodel category to do so. Again I reitereate my biggest complaint (or fear) are women who actually are fantastic with makeup such that they are a pendulum that can swing from very good looking to not attractive at all. Some makeup can improve matters and that’s all well and good but let’s keep the differences modest so there are no surprises at some point in the game.
Oh shut up. I know Lyle Lovett sings something about “I’ve seen the real thing, and the immiation too” but 90-percent of the straight white men I’ve known could not tell I had makeup on unless it was in unlikely colors (e.g., greenish eye shawdow, glittery purple lipstick).
If I had a dime for all the times a man said to me, you look great just natural, when I was wearing my “corporate” makeup, I wouldn’t have to put on that corporate makeup and go to work.
And what exactly is a hot body? I’m thinking that, since many of the posters are men, you mean just the torso, right?
Whack-a-mole has a point, ladies, men are always completely upfront about everything, so why are we so dern sneaky!
Anyway, I mostly wear makeup to let other women know I belong to the tribe.
I disagree with this premise completely. I see girls with killer bodies and not-exactly-killer faces all the time. The reverse happens as well, but not as often.
I think most girls with great figures can “get away” with what we’d call “average” faces b/c the overall package is appealing. Youth and health go a long way towards beauty. Sometimes it’s hard to tell the difference.
There aren’t very many truly ugly women in the world, so a girl who keeps herself in shape and knows how to sell what she’s got is going to be considered at least very pretty, if not beautiful, by most people.