Ben Carson for President thread

And still not relegated, but in the zone.

I’m a mite fuzzy on the political mechanics of this conjecture. Why would Carson winning in Iowa make NH “ripe pickings” for Cruz or Rubio?

Right, winning Iowa has no effect elsewhere, either way. Just ask President Huckabee, President Santorum, President Harkin, or President Gephardt.

I assume it means that they will focus their time and money on NH rather than strongly contest Iowa.

Wrong. Romney losing in IA in 2008 to Huck weakened him, which enabled McCain to vault ahead of him in NH.

We have a similar dynamic with Trump. Trump is close to or in the lead in IA and NH. If Carson beats him in IA, then that hurts Trump but no one else. So Trump would likely fall in NH, enabling someone else to get ahead of him.

It is apparently a real belief that was more common in the medieval era:

I tried to find if Joseph building the pyramids was a belief other evangelicals have, and I couldn’t find much. But even if it’s not a commonly held belief, it does fit into evangelical, Biblical literalist beliefs, so the people he’s appealing to won’t be bothered by it:

The belief that Joseph built the pyramids is laughable, but I guess it does make sense why he’d believe it and hold on to that belief and certain voters wouldn’t be bothered by it.

He really does have a temper. With CNN’s Alisyn Camerota:

Maybe he meant we’d have a better public healthcare system?
I know, I know…

Or it’s a hugely chaotic, multifaceted situation that in-part depends on the whims of the angry, misinformed, and highly ideological GOP primary voter.

Assuming this will play out as before is goofy. 2008 was back when the GOP was less irrational.

Carson campaign admits he fabricated his story that he was offered a free ride at West Point.

Can we please be done with this awful man now?

As I said in another thread, both Trump and Carson are target rich environments for fact checkers.

I can expect a drop in the polls for them, but not enough to prevent them from winning delegates. I do think that this time it is very likely that we will get either a brokered or broken Republican convention as the Republican fringe will explode in public if they do not have their way.

it is something else every damned day with this guy. How will the apologists defend this one?

Not too surprising, is it? I mean this is a huge part of jumping into the Presidential race when you have no previous political experience. All of the skeletons come tumbling out of the closet at once.

He’s been “embellishing” for decades, so there’s tonnes of, er, discrepancies that will come out. I mean, jeez, West Point doesn’t even really offer scholarships - it’s free to attend!

Foreign cadets have to pay tuition (though it’s subsidized based on the economic development of their home countries).

Details: Kevin Drum quotes Politico:

[INDENT]According to a story told in Carson’s book, “Gifted Hands,” the then-17 year old was introduced in 1969 to Gen. William Westmoreland, who had just ended his command of U.S. forces in Vietnam, and the two dined together. That meeting, according to Carson’s telling, was followed by a “full scholarship” to the military academy.

West Point, however, has no record of Carson applying, much less being extended admission…When presented with this evidence, Carson’s campaign conceded the story was false.[/INDENT]

Kevin Drum opines:

[INDENT]If Carson’s fans blow this off, then he’s truly invulnerable. There’s just no excuse. He told this lie in 1992, when he was 39 years old and already director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital. He wasn’t running for president at the time, so he figured no one would ever check up on it. He deliberately invented a story just because it made him look good.[/INDENT]

I say: his fans should reflect upon their information sources and critical thinking skills. Carson propped and was paid by scammers; he has told a number of howlers and at least one whopper. This wasn’t a mere embellishment. It was a straight up falsehood. Carson is a motivational speaker posing as a Presidential candidate and his supporters should have caught on to this long ago.

So Carson isn’t any more honest than the rest, or at least is just as capable of being dishonest. Anyone surprised? adaher?

Media Matters’ Eric Hananoki did a survey of conservative media over the Carson/West Point revelation, and the consensus seems to be he’s toast.

I hear that he has picked up an important endorsement from this group.

No, it makes no sense at all that he would believe it. It’s bad enough that he has to reject modern science and history to get the chronology to work out, but there is no excuse, other than living in the Middle Ages, for thinking that the pyramids are essentially hollow shells.

This is not like Noah’s Ark, where “you can’t prove it didn’t happen.” The pyramids are still there, available for inspection. Millions of tourists can testify how inconvenient the entrances, how narrow the corridors, and how small the chambers are in relation to the total volume. Whether they were designed by God or by super-intelligent aliens, only an idiot could believe that they were meant to offer easy access for the efficient storage and retrieval of grain.

OK so maybe he lies, but at least he lies authentically.

As my granpappy used to tell me. Always be sincere even if you have to fake it.