Some Sanders supporters are getting seriously unhinged. I think they’re just not used to their preferred candidate getting called out on stuff - which is interesting because they savagely go after Clinton.
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This has already been refuted by BobLibDem in post 3.
I’m confident you won’t be able to find a cite for any of the other quotes you gave.
What happened to the Republican Party? Why do so many of its supporters just make things up?
So you didn’t make it up, you just presented in a way to give it the exact opposite meaning. She was criticizing Obama’s campaign the same way she’s criticizing Sanders’ - he’s selling you a bag of dreams. And criticizing an opponent in a primary is a lot different than doing it to the sitting President who’s about to run for re-election which I’m sure is obvious to you.
And Bernie really should have been more careful about who he writes blurbs for.
I am pointing out that she is hypocritical and a downright liar for claiming that she’s never been critical of Barak Obama, and that’s there’s something wrong with Bernie doing the same thing. In addition, read post #3 and listen to the rest of the debate. She blatantly stated that she knows how to fix the laundry list of problems that any or all Democrats see as a problem in this country without ever once specifying how, just that she knows how to do and we should trust her to do it, in other words…
"When I am elected the first woman president the skies will open, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect,” she said dryly as the crowd erupted.
I respectfully disagree, to a certain extent. I would prefer to make a tasty mushroom risotto right now. A pleasant dish, though one requiring patience and attention. But I don’t see that as a realistic approach in our political world.
She admitted in the debate, that she had disagreed with Obama in the past. Did you miss that? She just wanted to make it look like Bernie did it more and at the wrong times.
In the Eighties, he endorsed Jesse Jackson for President.
Twice.
So you think saying nasty things about Clinton is a more realistic path to success, huh? Okay, lemme know how that’s working out for you. For myself, having allies who are behaving in the political ways I dislike so strongly, the political ways I see Sanders offering an alternative to, will only sap my enthusiasm. Won’t change how I think about the campaign, but it’ll change how I feel.
Not just African-Americans but every other race that is not white as well.
I think that in this particular case the negative campaigning is an integral part of the Clinton strategy and has infected the discussion. So at this point I don’t mind pointing that out or pointing out the gross hypocrisy it involves. I’ve been on this planet for too long I suppose, I’ve seen many elections and seen the inside of the political world also, and calling it sausage is putting a pretty face on it. So I am certainly jaded. I agree Bernie is calling for a change in the way we do this, and I fervently wish for him to succeed in that respect, but I don’t have faith in people to hold to those ideals when they feel their own ox is being gored.
Democracy would be a better idea if the operative units were not people.
Donna Brazile said on CNN last night that Bernie only endorsed Jackson once, and that was in 1988. Bernie endorsed Walter Mondale in 1984, when Brazile was a campaign manager for Jackson. She seemed to hold that against him.
Huh. CNN reported that “Jackson and Sanders have history together: The independent senator endorsed Jackson’s failed 1984 and 1988 presidential campaigns.” Daily Kos had it, too: “Bernie had previously endorsed Jesse Jackson in 1984 as well. Needless to say, the Democratic establishment wasn’t happy with Bernie … Bernie Sanders is one of the only elected White officeholders who endorsed Jesse Jackson for President (twice!). In 1984, he got slapped at a rally when he endorsed Jackson (though the slap was probably for remaining an Independent Socialist, rather than a Democrat). In 1988, Sanders and his organizers helped Jackson win a surprise victory in the Vermont caucuses–by one state delegate. In Jesse’s memorable phrase, Bernie Sanders & Jim Hightower were among the few elected White officeholders brave enough to “cross the color line” to support him when it mattered.”
Sanders has historically identified as a socialist. From a socialist point of view, racial struggle is less important than class struggle, because poor black people and poor white people have more in common with each other than poor white people have with rich white people or poor black people have with rich black people.
I’d say there’s a lot of merit to that worldview, if it isn’t necessarily a complete picture.
Cite that the Clinton campaign has said this?
Supporting Jesse Jackson shouldn’t be a badge of honor. He would have been a terrible president.
Nobody ever says that if you hate Obama it’s because you hate black people. It’s just more runny hershey squirts from the right-wing fart machine.
This MB must contain a whole lot more right wingers than I thought …
Still waiting on a cite for this sentence.
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I saw. I was just asking about his wonderful use of hyperbole.