Or decelerated; as an outsider he could inspire yet another round of “If he was a True Conservative[sup]tm[/sup] he would have won!”
You read that as someone getting sick of Bernie Bros. I read it as a Clinton supporter acting like an asshole. The equivalence isn’t false at all. I mean, seriously, implying that Sanders supporters all sat out the 2010 and 2014 elections? Fuck that dude.
Incidentally, if you want an example of Clinton supporters acting like assholes this election, look for cases where they use dismissive, insulting terms to refer to folks who support her opponent. Like, say, Bernie Bros. Our politics can be better than that, if we make the choice not to be assholes to one another.
Good advice there, Lefty. I suggest you take it.
Yeah. SlackerInc is incredibly embarrassing. The real shocker is dalej42 is actually supporting a woman!
I think you may have just broken the internet. I’ve had more than a few heated discussions with Lefty over the years, but “asshole” is one of the last descriptors I’d use for him.
It’s kind of funny to hear about “Bernie Bros” since his support among women is so strong. But I guess alliteration triumphs over accuracy.
You might try reading some of the threads being discussed, John. For a change.
Usually, you have to be annoying to get done anything worth doing in politics.
So what’s Sanders gotten done in all his years in Washington?
Sometimes being annoying is simply annoying.
I am bemused by your faith that Bernie has actually moved Hillary to the left and that her new-found convictions will remain immutable.
At the least, I’d hope that Sanders supporters make a loud reverberating stink up to and through the convention about the current system of “superdelegates” that allows them to ignore the voters’ will in their respective states.
But this thread is not about Sanders. It is about his fans – a whole progressive movement that existed before Sanders announced, is unusually energized now, and will remain existent and we may hope will remain energized after this election is over. That is what the OP is calling “annoying.” Well, may it grow ever more annoying for years to come.
If they accomplish something real, then yes, that excuses being annoying. If they pout and stay home rather than vote for Clinton, as we so often get so juvenilely “threatened”, that’s well beyond annoying and into destructive.
According to every Bernie Sanders fan on my Facebook feed, it’s “undemocratic” that he is losing the nomination.
Of course, I am noticing a general tendency of people of all political stripes to denounce as “undemocratic” any election their preferred candidate loses.
It’s undemocratic when my preferred answer loses in an IMHO poll, you fascists.
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Gosh, I guess that proves that you must be a true yellow dog Democrat. You screw up but it must be someone else’s fault. 
Bernie has been able to work with his pro-2nd Amendment constituents, he understands that the U.S. Bill of Rights is the U.S. Bill of INDIVIDUAL rights, and he’s the best (only?) candidate that could reach a workable compromise between the Whitehouse and both houses of Congress.
I’ve voted for many, many, many, many Democrats over the decades. What I would never do is vote for a Chicago party Democrat for a national office. They don’t possess the skill set to work with a second, or third, party. It’s their way or the highway, building, safety, food, and pet inspectors will try to make their opposition’s life difficult.
Don’t forget to wear a helmet when you’re jumping to conclusions. I wouldn’t want to be held responsible for those injuries, also. :eek:
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I believe Bernie supporters find it “undemocratic” as to “how” Bernie is losing the nomination. The super (party owned and operated) delegates were pledged to Hillary BEFORE the campaigning began. Bernie didn’t have a chance to convince the super delegates that he was the best candidate. But he’s doing well with the voters.
How well would Bernie be doing if the Democrat Party hadn’t already pre-determined who their candidate would be?
Sanders’ base includes a lot of people who are usually too disillusioned with the Dems to vote anyway and are now getting involved for the first time in years. I hope they’ll hold their noses and vote for Hillary, but, Hillary can win without their votes, Bill and Obama did.
Meh, the delegate voting roles for both parties primaries is rather shady. No political party in American MUST have a primary at all, they could just pick a person to support in the General, but they also want the shroud of democratic legitimacy as well while not giving up total control to pick who will serve the parties interests.
I can see why fans of both parties losing candidates are crying foul.
He’s 40% behind in the popular vote. Superdelegates act as endorsements before the convention, then can swing whichever way they want during the primaries and vote whichever way during the convention. That Clinton had the endorsement of most of the Democratic establishment starting out shouldn’t surprise anyone - why they should swing when he is 40% behind also shouldn’t surprise anyone.
That Bernie’s supporters don’t get that is part of what makes them annoying.
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He might be doing even better with the Democratic party apparatus if he had taken the opportunity in his long career to join the party, or do the sort of favors for other candidates that Bill and Hillary Clinton have been doing for years. I understand why he didn’t necessarily want to, and I think even Sanders himself gets why the party might view him with some side-eye, but some of his supporters seem to think that the party should overlook all that past history and bow to his obvious superiority.