y shuld eye haff 2 koreckt da spellin’ wen U fukin’ NO how to spel da words?
Why should I have to correct it while you go on wilfully making these egregious errors? Fuck off, if you refuse to type proper English then I shall be forced to refuse reading anything you have written.
The human side of me wants to label child molestors as “worse” than prostitutes, but spiritually I know better. “Hate the sin, love the person” in other words. I follow the NT, and the NT talks against pre-marital relations. So dont take it up with me, take it up with God . In all seriousness though, both of them disturb me. One is predatory and the other is consentual, but I follow what Christ says. So if you want to say that I am ultra-conservative, go for it. I could talk your ear off about my deep reasons for it, but I wont so I wont bore anyone. ha! If you really would like to have an inteligent discussion about it sometime, anyone feel free to e-mail me about it. As long as things are civil, I dont mind explaining why I say what I do.
You know, I think I have a real problem. I have been in or lived in several big cities and I have never seen what I thought was a prostitute. I’ve had so many people tell me “I see them all the time by Chinatown” or wherever (just an example) and I wonder: do they have a low opinion of many women, do I have a low opinion of prostitutes, or am I just oblivious to the fucking world around me? Right now I’ve settled on the last one, but still… :dubious:
ThatGuyWithPants
Thankfully, not everyone shares your standards. I don’t mean that in a bad way, but people run the gamut in all ideologies around here. That’s why I come.
For someone who just made a careless comparison to molesters (child or not), I have no such desire to be civil. Frankly I think you crossed that border already.
I find it really interesting that you want to paint prostitutes with the same brush as child molestors, but in none of your posts here have you mentioned your opinions of the people who use the services of the afore-mentioned prostitutes, and therefore make it all possible. It takes two to tango, you know. Otherwise the prostitutes would just be masturbating in their own cars.
Wait a minute, so I can discuss past illegal activity?? Does it have to be outside the statute of limitations?? Does it matter what sort of activity it is? Clearly if anyone admitted to a murder, their information would be passed along to authorities by the Reader, it would have to be by law. So wouldn’t saying “I smoked weed last week” be essentially the same thing, since it’s inside the statute of limitations?
I myself have been careful, even when discussing drug use in a couple recent threads, never to refer to any past use at all, I thought that was the rule.
No, Thatguywithpants, that doesn’t wash. As long as you have your tar brush out, you may as well realize that you are no better than the child molester or the prostitute either. You are in the same category, just forgiven. You can’t make yourself sound better, and compare them in black and white without realizing that you were, at one point, just as mired in sin and were looked upon in the same manner by God. If you want to get really theological about it, you don’t get to judge sinners. And that’s what you were doing.
RexDart- You can discuss anytyhing you want. There have been numerous threads wherin people discussed being high, drunk, or having done any number of illegal things.
The thing is, most of the things that are described are victimless crimes, or were done in the past.
If I had killed someone, I would start the thread only if A- I had been aquitted, B- Had waited for the statute of limitations to pass, if aplicable or C- Had already dealt with the legal consequences of the action.
Heck, I thought about starting “I pointed a gun at a human being with the intent to kill… ask me question!” thread, but I figured it would get boring quick, since I didn’t actually pull the trigger.
While what I had done was illegal (and boy how!), no harm was actually done.
That’s where the distinction lie.
In the closed “Ask the paedophile!” thread, I imagine it hit a nerve with a lot of our members, and would be closed for the good of the community. If the person was an active paedophile, I imagine it would be closed for legal reasons.
Perhaps an important thing about the “ask the guy who used to frequent prostitutes” thread is that most of the questions, and all of the answers, are thoughtful and reflective.
I can envision a thread like this taking a much more offensive turn that would justify it being moved out of MPSIMS or closed or deleted altogether. I give a lot of credit to isthatsowrong for being honest and undefensive in all of his replies, as I suspect that has gone a long way towards keeping the thread civil, interesting, and thought-provoking.
Reeder, thanks VERY much for dispelling the myth that prostitution is legal in Vegas. I know that I’m being whiny, but I’m pretty tired of this assumption, especially when it leads to people coming here just for the prostitution. Don’t they know we’re all about gambling?! Geez! Anyway, way to fight ignorance!
tuche. But you miss the point that I dont intentionally do wrong. Prostitutes and child molestors do. Even if they dont know it is sin, they have the bible just like everyone else does to read it and check. I’ve atoned for my sins, frequent prostitutes have not. And that right there makes all the difference in the world. And yes, technicly anybody can judge anyone else as long as they arent a sinner in the same sence. (ever notice that that reference in the bible includes that you cant remove your neighbors speck UNTIL you remove your own log. key word=until) If child molestors and prostitutes give up their sinful life and atone for their sins, then we are back to square one. Everyone is saved despite prior sins (with a dedication to rightousness).
featherlou , I fully understand what you are saying. Even though I never said it right out, I incorecctly assumed that people would understand that I dont hold people who go to prostitutes in a very high regard either. it does take two to tango. If we are going by Heloise’s Christian hijack point (which is a very valid one), then prostitutes are just as bad as the people who go to them. Or murderers, or liars, or child molestors, or thieves, etc…Scary, but if we go by the bible, all sins are equal. (read James where it says “He who keeps the law yet stumbles in one point has become guilty of all”.) Scary I know, but at least now you all can understand my justification that prostitutes and child molestors are just as bad off.
Have you got any kids? Didn’t think so. Just think about what you are saying here will you? What you are posted is extremely fucking offensive to me, and I suspect to others.
With all due respect, what you said to me is offensive to me as well. Am I making half a big of deal of it as you are? no. I’m just commenting on the hypocricy of what you are saying. If you have an issue you want to address, do it in a civilized and inteligent manner thank you.
by the way, having kids means absolutely nothing to making conclusions. Granted that might change when I have some of my own, but if you are going to be THAT close minded about viewing a source and its reasoning, then I have nothing to prove to you in the first place.
Because I used the F word? Right, I won’t use that word anymore.
Did I make a statement that equates a child molester to lady who charges for sex? No, that was you.
OK, you don’t have to prove anything. The way I see it, you think you’re above everyone else. You think you can look down on all the dirty sinners and group them together as equals. Try living in the real world for a while: child molesters are evil. They destroy childrens innocence. They destroy childrens lives. They cause pain and suffereing to people who are smaller and cannot defend themselves. They tear families apart.
Prostitutes ask for money in return for sex with a consenting adult. You can see the difference between these two things?
Are you seriously accusing me of not knowing the real world? You dont even know me besides what little I have posted here. Do not assume that I am naive to the world. I have no reason to go into full detail, but suffice to say, I have seen first hand a lot suffering and saddness -the real world- than many would hope to ever see in their life. So please dont assume that just because I said something you dont agree with, that I am too immature to understand the worlds workings at all. Have my experiences in life given me a good insight on life? Yes. Has it made me think I am “better than everyone else”? Not in the slightest.
Are child molestors evil? the actions which they perform are so mindblowingly disgusting and (yes) evil, that I dont even like to talk about it. Do I get the same disgust from what prostitutes do? No. The actions they perform are evil, that I will give you. If they are defiled, then yes, I might say they are evil. Does the bible say that they are both evil? Yup. Even though I personally am not as disgusted with prostitutes as I am child molestors doesnt mean that they arent any worse off in God’s eyes. This isnt a matter of what I think, its a matter of what God thinks. So if God is disgusted with the sin of Child molestation and prostitution, I bear it upon myself to agree. So in that instance, I am not speaking like I know any better than anyone else. I am merely speaking for the bible, and how God’s will has caught my attention to follow diligently. If you care to take that as a “holier than thou” action for me to take, then so be it. I’m not doing it to seem smarter than anybody else though. I am merely stating what God said, and what I believe. The two just happen to coincide.
I hope you understand what I am getting at. Ultimately I really do agree with you that they are evil. I’m just saying that because it is biblicly wrong to do both, Then we shouldnt try to make prostitution out into a normal act. Its not.