You know how when you’re in the Army you’re expected to stand at attention, have a perfect uniform, and any minor imperfection in your actions will result in harsh punishment? And how it’s kind of the same in culinary school (where your trainer will scream at you how much you suck when you make a mistake), your medical residency, and so on?
Besides cuisine, military, law enforcement, and medicine, which professions have training that is, for lack of a better choice of words, adversarial? Like, you don’t see the welding instructor at votech screaming obscenities at a student who made a mistake; he may firmly and unambiguously tell her what she did wrong, but there’s no hostility.* Nor do you see that sort of thing in (I’m assuming) plumbing or HVAC school or whatever. Or do you?
*Surely there are bad teachers in any profession or discipline, but I don’t imagine welding training, on the whole, is based on military model.
Socratic instruction in law (not law enforcement, but teaching future lawyers) can be adversarial, if I understand correctly.
Areas in which mistakes can easily cost lives might also have adversarial training - I wonder about (for example) fire fighting, large animal training, etc.
Neither residency nor med school were remotely comparable to the military in discipline, in my experience. There was criticism, sure, but no screaming or harsh punishment.
Though I do recall stories about Michael Swango (notorious medical serial killer) disconcerting his M.D. superiors during training, when he responded to criticism of his mistakes by dropping to the floor and doing pushups to atone (he had a military background in addition to being a weirdo).
Certain professional athletic endeavors, such as football.
The nature of the game is team v. team, and in some sports (e.g. football) you have distinct squads in opposition, so training involves scrimmaging against your own team’s opposition squad (offence v. defense). Sounds adversarial to me. You probably don’t have as much coaches yelling at players, although for certain coaches and certain team philosophies it certainly does happen.
Having worked both ends of the social spectrum, my impression is that dumb poorly paid workers (me) tend to get dumb poorly paid management. And smart well paid professionals (also me) tend to get smart well paid professional managers. In those contexts, people yell at me because they are dumb and don’t know any better.
From my army friends, in the army some people are trained to do some tasks while ignoring the fact they are being shot at. Some of the training involves doing the same tasks while being yelled at. Some people are trained to do some tasks immediately, without thinking. Some of the training for that involves being yelled at. On the other hand, even in the (Aus) army, training for tasks that involve understanding does not include yelling, except from dumb Defence Force Academy graduates.
I know medical residency doesn’t normally work like that, and I’m pretty sure culinary school doesn’t actually work like Hell’s kitchen. I think you have an unrealistic starting point flavored by TV shows.
I think this is as close to a real answer as you’re gonna get. Professional football, for sure. Just watch any of those behind-the-scenes documentaries of training camps; seems pretty militaristic to me.
My Fire academy class was alot of hard physical training but there was pretty much ZERO browbeating, yelling, or big attitudes. If anything if someone was lagging or spending alot of time pondering the best course of action there was the occasional “take your time, once they (the hypothetical occupants of burning structure) are dead you don’t have to worry about rescuing them.” Or “don’t worry, the cries for help will stop on their own in a minute or two”
I haven’t seen a correlation between pay and boss smarts…in both IT and engineering I’ve seen very Dilbert managers; they are picked due to office politics and disinterested upper management. Minimum wage bosses are usually as bad because they know their employees are stuck in the job and can’t afford to complain.
By what meaning of “easier”? My grad school classes were way easier than my undergrad classes, but neither involved the teacher yelling or insulting the students.
I’ve worked in the kitchen of a Michelin star restaurant for a couple of months. The tenor was militaristic, and, yes, yelling was common. Talking to the chefs, my impression was that this was not an anomalous experience, but I personally only have that one data point.
I once worked in a simple but nice restaurant, where one of the cooks had stories about the CIA. (the Culinary Institute of America). He had started to study there, but for family reasons moved away. He described it as military boot camp…the new recruits lived in terror of their “drill sergeants”.
And I have friends who took a vacation on a luxury cruise boat up the Hudson River, with fine cuisine provided by CIA-trained chefs. When the boat passed by the CIA campus, all the chefs lined up on deck in inform and saluted like soldiers.
