And Bethesda makes everyone download the game yet again, with a 47 gig patch.
Ouch. I assume you mean the new patch today that fixes a host of bugs and issues? We have to download the whole things again?? :eek:
My patch was “only” 17 Gigs on PC.
I don’t have the game and saying you’re actually downloading the whole game again may be overly flippant. The number I gave is what I saw in a report, which may have been biased towards PS4. But even 17 gigs is a massive patch.
This unflattering video is making the rounds
It looks to me like a bunch of modders tried to make Fallout 4 into a multiplayer game (like the Just Cause multiplayer mods for example) but they failed and it’s a janky mess because it just wasn’t made for it. I would’ve commended those modders on giving it a try and releasing it for free to be goofed around in, but as a $60 AAA game from a big publisher (with the obligatory microtransactions) it looks… insulting.
Now I understand how it is different from an MMO, thank you. BTW the video in the post above mine has already been taken down which suggests it was incriminating in some way.
The new patch was ‘only’ 17gb on my end. Wasn’t too bad, though a huge patch for, seemingly, just some bug fixes. I didn’t get a chance to play last night, so no idea. I know they haven’t addressed the lack of storage issue or some of the other things that, to me, say they pushed this game out before it was ready.
Lack of storage and lack of caps at the vendors are the biggest problems I’ve seen. I haven’t seen a vendor with more than 200 caps, and they take forever to reset that amount after you sell to them. And I think some of the vendors are linked, so they share caps. I found a new vendor last night, after deliberately walking along the train tracks just to find a new one, and he had zero caps.
You can’t store all your crap, and you can’t sell it either. So at some point collecting material is just a waste of time.
Exactly. One thing that exacerbates all of this, IMHO is the way they do power armor in the game. You can’t use the actual armor parts of the power armor (you can use the frame) until you are level 25. So, if you want to collect all the pieces in preparation of that before hand, you have to store it, as just weight (and the armor pieces weigh a ton) in your storage box…along with the frame. Why you can’t use the power armor station with it’s frame to put your suit in is a mystery. It’s freaking stupid in fact. I’ve taken to scraping all the armor pieces in my inventory just to give me enough room to gather crafting stuff. But even then I’m rapidly running out of space, so I’ve stopped gathering most things (adhesive and aluminum are the only things I pick up right now…that and ammo).
Another thing I have a complaint about is ammo. Why can’t we break down ammo types we don’t use? Why can’t we break down grenades and mines? Heck, why can’t we SELL ammo, grenades and mines??? Though that gets into the ridiculous limits of the automated vendors in the game.
My WAG is that they haven’t figured out how to do inventory in multiplayer. Instead of doing the smart thing, which is making your base instanced (so they you could have whatever you want inside as it wouldn’t effect the game world, though you’d need a load screen to get in and out) it’s part of the world…and they don’t want to bog the world down with a lot of inventory stuff when there could be 25 other players on. And that probably goes for vendors too. To me, it seems like an easy fix for this would be just having the bases be instanced, since another player can’t come in and loot your stash anyway, so no real point in not doing it this way. I’ll take the load screen hit if they will just let us have more storage options than one big stash. Hell, I’m fine with all my stuff being in my instanced base and not having a stash in every Red Rocket or other places on the map. Oh, and would it really be so hard to allow us to put the power armor in the power suit frame just like we could in Fallout 4 and not make it part of our very limited inventory??? Also, why do I have to be level 25 to use power armor?
You can use raider PA pieces at 15, but you need 25 for t-45 or the new stuff(don’t want to spoiler). t-51 is 30 I think, t-60 is 40.
Yes I have most of my stash full of random pieces of armor I can’t use yet.:smack:
I am starting to realize that it is best to just mark down where you find it, rather than gathering for the future.
That video has been pulled for a copyright claim.
Which in this context probably means Bethesda didn’t like what it had to say and needed a pretext to get rid of it.
Watched it last night…is it just me, or in every interview clip etc. does Todd seem entirely unconvinced of the words coming out his own mouth?
It’s mostly a bunch of clips of streamers messing with the bugs and glitches in the game.
I don’t think one video is going to make or break this game’s reputation - it’s been getting pretty universally panned. The kindest reviews I’ve seen are along the lines of, “gosh, this game is pretty boring.”
Well that’s shitty. I’m not sure who did it, but youtube is way too quick to take shit down.
It’s just a compilation of streamers playing fallout 76 and showing all of the glitches and bad design interspersed with Todd Howard’s commentary on the game from presentations.
Here’s a re-upload if anyone wants to see it. May or may not get taken down too.
Also, he says in the video that this is the biggest project they’ve ever done, and they borrowed experience from all zenimax’s development teams, and all that. They’d be way better off getting this to blow over if they said “eh, we tried something different, here you go” instead of hyping it up like that. “This is our biggest project ever and it feels like a modder community made it in their spare time” is not a flattering look.
Yeah, that one is still up.
So, is QA not a thing in the games industry anymore?
Bethesda seems to have learned that they can use early buyers as free QA and they’ll still make lots of money.
On PC, their community has fixed their games for them going on 20 years now, so they’re used to it. I still think it’s a shame now that the way their games are most experienced are the broken, crappy version now. But the modding community can’t fix their multiplayer games, since they disallow mods.
Fallout 76 sounded awful from the announcement (let’s make it PvP multiplayer and remove all the content and story that makes the Fallout series worth playing) but that video is just so much worse.
It’s like trying to serve chocolate cake with liver and onions baked in it, then you find out the liver is rotten and putting people in the hospital.