In other words, you have no substantive answer.
Is there any actual evidence of this? There are armed right-wing groups marching, and Republican politicians routinely talk about violent resistance against the government (‘second amendment solutions’), but I don’t see any organized violence advocated and/or practiced on the left.
White supremacists are passing laws disenfranchising non-whites, they are anything but marginalized and anemic.
I did not see that. good for you. Seriously.
Are you a man of wealth and taste?
There’s wrong. There’s bullshit, and there’s fucking lie. This is the last. How many times did I say I voted against Trump and for Obama? How forthright have I been in my condemnation of Trump and the Republicans pandering to him. I don’t think I’ve said much if anything positive about Republicans in this whole thread.
You should retract that.
Plus, you are kind of missing the point. There is no shortage of information on the failings of the right on this board. That is well-covered and represented here. Y’all have that down.
What you need, is a little critical analysis of your own side from yourselves.
Dude. Your criticism of Dems was really a veiled attack of The right.
I am not saying anything nice about Republicans. They are the same old group they have always been, except flavored with extra Trump, which tends to emphasize the worst.
Fuck Republicans. I am not interested in talking about them. This board has done an awesome Job cataloguing all their failings. I’m good.
I think this is fine – you’re right that the board does a great job of highlighting Republican shittiness. But some of your criticism of Democrats/liberals/progressives is off base, IMO – most particularly the idea that racist and violent elements are more powerful on the left than the right. With this President, and what he said about Charlottesville and much, much more, and the nigh-universal support he has among high office-holders in his party (and approval rating among Republican voters), that’s just totally nuts.
You mean at Charlottesville, when they were going to DC? That didn’t fill a single bus. Get real, actually Nazis and white supremacists are pathetic
Cite?
If you come back with the Georgia voting thing you had better show that the guy doing it is an actual white supremacist or Nazi.
So, do you have to be an official member of a club to be a racist now?
In Charlottesville the counterprotestors outnumbered the Nazis.
There are no counterprotestors in Portland. You know these guys took over the ICE building and locked it down. They had to send in the Federal government to get them out.
Yes, one Nazi left his mob, got in his car and drove the other way into counterprotestors, but leftists have taken shots and nearly killed congressmen playing baseball. They have shot a police officer protecting them at BLM. They are openly doxxing people they dislike and the kids of people they dislike. A Georgetown professor is openly saying Republican Congressman should be castrated, and gets to keep her job. Mainstream Democrats are openly calling on their base to harass and accost their political opponents in public and chase them out of public areas. Conservative speakers have their speeches broken into by protestors who shout ‘shame.’
Up and down the discourse of the left it is now open strategy to shout down the opposition and not allow them to speak.
Believe woman is a literal demand to ignore due process and repeal the presumption of innocence.
This is not protesting. This is not political expression. People in masks harassing threatening bodily harm (and inflicting it,0 damaging property,ignoring laws and the rights of others. These are terrorist revolutionaries. They are on your side. You should, as a United party be denouncing them. Instead you are encouraging them as a party and adopting their tactics.
Have you ever read Mein Kampf? Have you read the Gulag Archipelago? Have you studied history?
Have you ever wondered what makes a populist movement turn into oppressive authoritarianism. The left is following the playbook of Germany, Russia, China, And Cuba. People are going to get killed, not just a couple from some meth addled skinhead.
At some point there is going to be an actual battle, and a fair amount of people are going to get killed. The of antifa behavior is not one of protest, they are trying to lure someone who is a symbol of authority into a battle. They will provoke violence and a bunch of them are going to get killed as a result. The authority will be blamed and this will be a call for justified escalation and more violence.
It has always existed in the fringes of the left, but it is now getting pretty mainstream.
Speaking of fucking lies, I never said you did not. Only that it is a tiresome fig leaf that I have seen elsewhere being told by conservatives to clumsily deny the “falling in line” three monkey act that in the end supports the Cheeto in Chief.
Sounds more like what many conservatives accuse others, of being like a professionally easily offended poster. 
The point of the thread is to find better conservatives, so my replies go to the conservatives that never learn. Although finding that you do not even pay attention to the ones you reply to (and getting it wrong) shows to all that even you have issues with checking links and evidence that should modify your sorry points, but they do not have an effect in the end, just like with many of the conservatives that are not indeed better.
And of course that agrees on what I observed, the prevalence of idiot balls is currently over-represented by the conservatives in congress. As noted, me and others do worry more with the ones that have the power too, not much with nutpicked tweets.
It is then more logical to concentrate on the powerful, those whom most progressives, liberals and even better conservatives see that there should be opposed now.
And as pointed many times, you are barking at the wrong three on this one, and again: As better conservative scientists told us (Many climate scientists that were Republican were threatened for telling the congressional fools how serious an issue like climate change is but became independent and opposed to the current Republicans in power thanks in part due to those threats) it is no wonder on who we should concentrate on criticizing, not nutpicks, but the bigger fools that follow fools in congress into disastrous policies.
He didn’t say ‘racist.’ His language was specific. So was mine.
Are you mentally impaired? The guy who was fucking elected president of the country openly and repeatedly called for violence against his political opponents–and he’s still calling for unlawful incarceration against opponents–and you think it’s the Democrats who are calling for a revolution about our form of government. How can you think that your assertion makes sense?
There are none. If they were good they would not be conservatives. How can they be better? Is there such a thing as better liar? Rapist? Nazi?
When you are dealing with conservatives there is no better. How can there be?
You have successfully defined roughly half the political population, or really anybody who does not agree with you as vermin whom you hold in contempt.
You are literally the bad guys in black masks, taking over the city and terrorizing old people. Literally.
And you actually believe you are the good guys.
Whether true or not, so what? Far-right bigots planned for violence, executed violence, and then cheered afterwards for the “success” of their rally. And the President said there were good people on both sides. The counterprotestors came to oppose Nazis. That’s a pretty reasonable thing to do. And they didn’t kill anyone. In fact, the dreaded antifa has never killed anyone, IIRC. Unlike right wing terrorists like Dylan Roof, the OK City bomber, and many more (and a very, very small number of left-wing terrorists in the last few decades).
No, this is not the discourse of “the left”. It might be the discourse of a very, very small number of vocal assholes. And of course, it’s very, very easy to find vocal assholes on the right saying stuff this bad or worse. There will always be vocal assholes on both sides. And the internet means that their views can be seen by everyone. But it’s still just a very small number of vocal assholes.
If you believe this then you have a poor understanding of the #MeToo movement.
I’ve denounced terrorists and violent assholes many times, on this board and elsewhere. But the Democratic party hasn’t put anyone even close to this in charge. No current high Democratic office holder ever said “knock the crap out of them!”, referring to protestors. No high Democratic office holder ever suggested to police that they make sure those they arrest hit their heads going into police cars. No high Democratic office holder ever spread racist conspiracy theories, bragged about violating the consent of women on multiple occasions, and said a judge couldn’t do his job because he was Mexican. And much, much worse. And the Republicans are celebrating and still supporting this President – both those in office and the voters, for the most part.
This just sounds nuts to me. If there’s any truth to it at the moment, it’s far, far more true of the right in the US than the left – just listen to the words of the President. “Lock her up” – no due process, no trial, just “lock her up”. Not just for Clinton, now – they chant that for Pelosi too. And the President encourages this. And it’s the left that is leading this trend? That’s just ridiculous.
Wow. Scylla seems to have just jumped the shark. According to him, the guy who was on national TV saying that there were good people among the Nazis in Charlottesville is not supporting Nazis, but rather it’s the people opposed to Nazis who are equivalent to Nazis. Wow.
Here’s a thought: Yes, there are good conservatives. They are the ones who are not touting support of the Nazi supporting misogynist white supremacist nepotistic pathological lying incompetent and ignorant fool currently tarnishing the good officer of president. They are the ones, like me, who are doing their part to get the bad conservatives and their leader out of political office.
“yeah, but Trump” is not an answer.
It’s terrible. He’s a horrible, hateful imbecile. He constantly says the most bizarre insane things.
Like I said, I voted against him. You guys put forth as a candidate the one person that he could beat.
For 20 years you guys have been saying that every Republican candidate is a misogynistic intellectually bereft egomaniacal blowhard. The Republicans took a former Democrat who is literally and without exaggeration every one of those things and ran him against you, and won.
Hoist by your own petard.
You had him for the first 63 years of his life. He was broke when we got him.
Is Scylla a [DEL]white trash punk[/DEL] proud boy? Whoops, that was a typo. I meant is Scylla a white trash punk?
The left didn’t nominate him for President, elect him President, and then continuously support and praise him as President, while he continues to say bigoted and otherwise awful things, in addition to the buffoonery (and great harm) in policy and rhetoric.
I literally just described that as possibly the worst thing that any President has ever said, and brought that out as an example of something Republicans have done that I despised.
You should be more careful.
Then why are you pointing fingers at the left – whose leaders don’t espouse rhetoric anywhere close to this – when the present leader of the more right party says such things routinely, and is continuously supported and praised by most in his party?