Beyond Valley of the Dolls -- worst movie ever made? (UNCODED SPOILERS!)

Not a poll for the worst movie ever made – more of a rhetorical question, really. IFC ran “Beyond Valley of the Dolls” tonight and I cannot believe I watched the whole thing. It was like one of those bad dreams where you watch a plane crash – you can’t do anything to stop it, but you can’t stop watching. How bad was it? Well, Charles Napier was the only actor I remember seeing in any movie other than that one.

IMDB lists it as comedy/drama/thriller – not sure which one it was intended to be in, but the heavy-handed symbolism at the end was a funny coding of social mores at the time. I’m not gonna’ list any spoilers yet because some may want to go ahead and code 'em. I say let’s not – we’ve already had one thread almost completely spoiler coded this week. Besides, could you really spoil the ending of this 1970 stinker?

What say y’all – can we have some fun with this without the spoiler codes, or is this just a really short thread?

Roger Ebert on co-writing the movie.

Well, it may have been intended as satire, but they didn’t quite bring it off. It just comes off as badly-written, badly-directed and badly-acted. For real satire, you need MASH * or *Catch 22 * or *Apocalypse Now * or even *Barbarella * or Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice. Meyer and Ebert may have been shooting for satire, but they missed.

We thoroughly enjoyed it. Have it on DVD.

I’m betting you were a Siskel man.

It’s far from the worst movie ever made, but the highest praise I can offer is that, upon second viewing, it wasn’t quite as bad as I first thought.

I had no idea about Ebert’s involvement when I saw it. My main thought after it was over was “this was written by a couple of repressed 40-year-olds reading Hollywood gossip magazines and trying to imagine what those wild and crazy rock n’ roll kids are up to.”

This film proves what a hyporcrite Ebert is for bashing every other misogynistic film which comes out- glass house throwing stones and all.

I think with Ebert, it was a matter of “It’s not the movie I wrote.” That’s a common phrase because it’s a common occurence.

I certainly don’t hold Ebert responsible for that sound effect when the guy falls out of the rafters.

It’s a bad movie – the comedy just isn’t there to redeem all the other crap – but it’s hardly the worst movie ever made.

Probably not the worst movie ever made, but it’s on my top 3 most despised movies list. I’d rather watch Manos on a 24 hour loop, than revisit BtVotD for fifteen minutes. Haven’t seen it in what, 35 years? My rage, though, is white hot and brand new. Hate.

I thought it was hilarious nearly all the way through. A camp classic.

Whether it was intended that way or not.

Ebert doesn’t say that anywhere in his article about the movie. He seems quite proud of it.

I thought it was very entertaining and trashy.

How can any movie that contains the line “You shall taste the black sperm of my vengeance!!” be bad?? :confused:

Yes, but how many movies can claim an appearance by the “Strawberry Alarm Clock”?

Oh god…one of the most (unintentionally?) funny movies I’ve ever seen in my lifetime.

paraphrasing

“There’s a body inside. It…it doesn’t have a HEAD!”

collective gasp

“I can walk again!”

collective Hooray!!!”

then, music. Bad, bad music.

Hee.

The humor was quite intentional. My wife loves it’s raunchy campiness. I don’t think it is the worst movie ever made, I just think it is too heavy handed in it’s attempt to be satric and campy at the same time.