Biden Getting Ready To Step Aside?

I think that’s just what happens when your vice presidential nominee, you know, talks to the press, and, well, is trusted by the campaign to expound on issues of the day, off the top of his head.

Everybody noted weeks ago that Biden tends to speak without thinking. They were right, and he’s lucky there’s bigger news out there at the moment.

Please. First of all, that was hardly a smack down by Obama. Second of all, you’ve either forgotten, or you haven’t been paying attention.

Well, at least he probably knows how many states there are, even if he doesn’t know his Presidents.

Now that is funny. It reminds me of Drunk History.

Someone should ask Biden what we did when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

:confused: I thought it was the US Government that bombed Pearl Harbor? Wasn’t it the then President, Teddy Roosevelt that was in on the plot? To be sure, it was the Germans who dropped the bombs, but that was just a cover story…

-XT

That was the Jews, dammit! Remember?! “Torah, Torah, Torah!”

Agreed.

You’re a brave man. You’d probably catch something.:slight_smile:

Man…too funny.
Thanks a million, I needed a good laugh in this thread.

Biden: The gift that keeps on giving.

How in hell did Obama pick him, anyway? Did he lose a bet? Did he not notice that every time Biden tried to take his campaign national and run for president he wound up doing an early exit after getting zero traction?

Can you imagine if Palin had said that FDR went on TV in 1929? There would be much wailing and gnashing of teeth about how it ‘proved’ how stupid she is. But because it’s old crazy Joe, everyone just looks the other way and smiles and says, “oh, that’s our Joe!”

And it’s not like this is an isolated case. When the spotlight is on Biden, he manages to stick his foot in his mouth just about every day.

And he’s qualified to be President?

That and Biden got caught up in the whole messiah thing when he tried to heal Senator Chuck Graham.

Joe, you’ve got to walk first (on water) before you can run (for Vice President).

I’m going to make it my personal mission to destroy this stupid argument each and every time I see it. You are discrediting Obama for the time he has spent running for President while in the Senate, effectively saying his experience since running doesn’t count.

Obama’s executive experience? I dunno hasn’t he run a national campaign for president for the last 1.5 years? I don’t think that’s anything to sneeze at.

Biden’s not going anywhere. There would have to be a VASTLY better choice to justify him dropping out, and there simply isn’t anyone that much better. Plus Obama’s ahead. Even if he were sick I imagine that he’d stay in for the sake of the ticket.

Where are people getting these rumors from? Biden isn’t perfect, but certainly not a drag on the ticket.

You’re equating running for office as a resume’ builder for the actual office? Baffling but OK. Palin ran for Governor, successfully. Add that to her resume’.

If I didn’t want him to stay on the ticket I’d suggest TBA. what was Obama thinking when he chose a running mate (because of his experience) who repeatedly said Obama was not ready for the job. Essentially, Obama validated Biden’s opinion of him.

Look, I know this is a ‘talking point’ for your side, but it’s asinine. Obama’s qualified to be president because… he’s running for President. That means everyone who runs for president is qualified, right? A presidential campaign is nothing like real executive experience. For one thing, he’s got campaign managers to do the heavy lifting for him. For another, it’s a very different thing to be the head of a group that has one goal in mind - pleasing you and helping you achieve what you want - and running a Presidency where you’re surrounded by enemies and people with their own axes to grind, and you have to find a way to work with the other side of the aisle while not pissing off your own constituents.

Oh, wait - it’s not just that he’s running, but that’s run a flawless campaign, right? Except that he hasn’t. Obama got lucky - Hillary chose not to oppose him in the caucus states, and he built up a huge electoral lead. But when it came to the big primaries, he couldn’t beat her. Had it not been for those early wins in the small caucus states, Obama wouldn’t even be on the ticket.

Then there’s the fact that he’s out-spent McCain 2-1 in a year when the Democrats have all the natural advantages, and hasn’t managed to pull away from him.

Then there was his strategic miscalculation to not seek federal election financing. Now he has to split his time between campaigning and raising money. And his horrible decision to pick Biden for the Vice Presidency rather than Hillary.

Then there was the fact that Obama was totally caught off-guard by the Palin pick, even though Republicans have been pushing her for almost a year, and she’s been on McCain’s shortlist for 8 months. He had no advance planning in place for her pick, and let McCain and Palin grab the spotlight and race ahead of him in the polls. If he didn’t have the media carrying water for him, he could have been finished right there.

Then there’s that 50-state strategy. Which is now no longer a 50 state strategy because he realized that he stretched himself to thin.

And how about that Obama faux-presidential seal? That sure was a good plan. And the greek columns and the 70,000 seat stadium, all which played into the narrative of him being all hat and no cattle.

The result of all this is that Democratic insiders are grumbling about him taking an easy ‘gimme’ election for Democrats and screwing it up so badly that he’ll have to fight tooth and nail to win against a 70 year old Senator and a woman from Alaska.

Sorry, but if this is your idea of the kind of sound judgment and planning that qualifies Obama to be President, you should re-think that a little.

I think you’re showing your true colours here a bit too overtly, Sam (in case anyone was fooled previously).

oh, goodness, that could go either way. if it is a “i get teared up over my country” thing like sen. clinton, it could work. if it is a “i’m losing” or “joe is mean” thing… big backfire.

there’s no crying in debates!

“Caught off guard by the Palin pick?”

I guess if you mean that Obama had probably overestimated McCain’s judgement and was taken mildly by surprise that he would do something that stupid, I agree with you.

I’ll be happy to attack any equally unserious claims about McCain.

Whereas Biden, of course, was a masterstroke.