You’re right!
He should have picked a small state Democratic govenor who no one has ever heard of whose only previous experience was in small town local politics.
Obama/Baldacci - 08!
Obama is now leading McCain by 9 points in in the WaPo/ABC poll out this morning and his RCP average is now trending higher than it was before the conventions. McCain’s convention bounce is gone, and the bloom is off the Palin rose for good. Obviously, the economic crisis is hurting McCain, but he did himself no favors by stunt casting a running mate for cynically calculated political purposes rather than useful qualifications. If he’d taken Romney, he’d at least have somebody who could go out and talk to the press about the crisis instead of having to hide Palin from anybody with a microphone.
Biden was a mature and responsible choice. He’s also still a net political asset. No one is going to change their vote because Bidn has an occasional disagreement with Obama.
Palin disagrees with McCain on a few things too, you know. ANWR and Global Warming, for instance.
It’s not just the disagreements. Biden flops about more than a dying fish.
There’s no flip flops there. just disagreements. Who gives a shit? Read the polls, dude. Nobody cares abiut this stuff. They’re more converned about their homes, their jobs, their 401K’s and the price of gas. No one is going to base their vote on what Joe Biden thought of a pefectly fair political ad.
Look Sam,
The problem is that it isn’t a ridiculous argument. Either you give him credit for being a Senator, or you give him credit for what he’s been doing that nullifies his experience as Senator. When you argue that he started running for President only two years after being Senator, you’re in effect saying he has two years experience in the Senate. I can buy that only if you also give him credit for doing what he’s been doing. What you guys are suggesting is that after he started running for President, his experience is the same as if he were to sit at home watching TV. You can’t have it both ways, man.
Not everyone who runs for President is qualified by the fact that they are running. I’d say that Obama passed this threshold somewhere in March when shit really got ugly. Up until then I’d say that you might have a point. You can’t compare Obama’s campaign with Mike Gravel. Obama’s built something enormous, which I think is even more attractive. He didn’t just take over some organization, he BUILT it.
President’s don’t have aides? What are you talking about. The President has more people to do heavy lifting for him than any other position in the world!
Man, I just can’t even address how wrong you are about this stuff. Obama’s campaign appears to be an easy one to run only because he’s too damn smart to let it be otherwise. You need to go and research what went on in Hillary’s campaign. It was nothing short of constant back-stabbing after she lost Iowa. Remember Mark Penn and those guys? Mark Penn is the definition of a guy with his own axe to grind. Obama happens to know how to get past that bullshit.
You don’t think being the leader of a campaign organization with thousands of employees ( and even more volunteers ) spread across every single state is not executive experience? At the end of this he’ll have executive experience on the order of what Sarah Palin has from that alone.
Sarah Palin doesn’t get credit because she jumped in the race. John McCain does. What I think is really telling is you guys are really forcing the issue with her, saying that she has more experience than Obama. But luckily the people aren’t buying it. Palin’s approval ratings are going down, down, down.
I think Obama’s victory is very telling of how good he is. I think it’s so hilarious how you guys on the right say that he’d be so horrible in X, Y, and Z when the fact of the matter is that he’s already a scary good politician. He’s beating McCain despite being black in a country where racism still matters.
No, Obama most likely heard of it and dismissed it as too reckless and irresponsible for someone of John McCain’s integrity. I would have done the same. Palin isn’t exactly turning out to be helping either. She may be a hit the places she goes, but she’s not winning over any votes that McCain really needs.
I don’t see how this is a negative. So should he have not tried to open up any states at all? Should he continue to work on every single state instead of the select few he thinks he can flip? The 50 state strategy isn’t a failure just because he won’t win EVERY state. I think it’s a pretty good strategy as it has yielded VA and NC and CO and possibly NV as new “swing states.” The point is that if Obama wins the Kerry states plus NM, which is very likely unless some shit goes bad, he’ll have a choice of five or so states to flip over instead of the usual Ohio or Florida. I think the 50 state strategy has worked EXACTLY as planned.
I don’t really know what you’re talking about here at the end. Just because a bunch of chicken littles like to fret and run around (Republicans certainly have more discipline in their ranks) doesn’t mean that Obama A) gives a shit or B) listens to them.
You want to know how Obama’s going to win this? I’ll tell you how and it all goes back to his history as a [sneer] community organizer [/sneer]. What is Obama focusing on? Is he focusing on BS campaign back and forth? Maybe, but guess what his army of paid workers and volunteers is doing? They are out there registering voters. The advantage Democrats have in some states now is staggering. This is what’s going to win him the election. He uses his inspirational BS to motivate people to go and work for him. They register voters. That is why he’s going to win, my friends.
This is why I get so angry in these threads, btw. It’s because people on the right simply can’t admit that Obama has ever done anything competent in his life ever. Why does it have to be so all or nothing with you guys? Aren’t we at the SDMB? Shouldn’t the call to fight ignorance take first priority? For the record, I think McCain (and especially before he ran for Presidency this time) isn’t a bad choice. I don’t really think he should be President in light of the options we have this time around, but I don’t argue that he’s fundamentally disqualified for some reason or another. I think his pick of Palin was probably a necessary gamble (his campaign was going nowhere) which looks to not be paying off. The right-wing love her, but he’s really turning off independents with his selection of her.
So that’s it for now.
If nobody cares about this stuff, why all the posts from you about McClean/Palin disagreements/flipflops/gaffes? That’s a little puzzling.
All what posts from me about that stuff?
You have to be kidding. OK, I’ll be back with some.
Is anyone even trying to answer the OP anymore? Shouldn’t someone just start a new thread?
I think I’ll be waiting a while.
Boring and predictable, actually. I was hoping for something more interesting, but instead we get a guy who was on short lists from the start.
I just hope we see some of the Biden-as-attack-dog everyone was expecting, rather than the ‘seems like missing in action’ guy we’ve been getting.
-Joe
Actually you’re right. Only two posts could qualify out of your last 750, and they’re pretty mild at that.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10190482#post10190482
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10219399#post10219399
I owe you an apology.
Accepted. I’m a pretty hyperbolic and opinionated poster, so I can see why you would have made that assumption. I generally don’t sweat small shit like that, though – at least not on offense.
This thread is dead. There are 40 some days to the election. Nothing will happen.
… at least, as to dumping Biden, I presume you mean? A whole lot could happen in the campaign itself, of course. Or have I been whooshed?
Maybe now that it’s come out that he ALSO supported the Bridge to Nowhere™ he’ll step down, ehe? 
-XT
Did he lie through his teeth about it like Palin has?
Don’t know…my guess is that only he could answer that question. Anyone else attempting to do so would be putting a partisan spin on things…such as you just did. I just thought it was amusing, that’s all.
BTW, I don’t REALLY think he’s going to quit…I was just saying that tongue in cheek.
-XT
I don’t think you understood the question. Let me clarify. Sarah Palin stood up at the Republican Convention and claimed that she said “thanks but no thanks to the Bridge to Nowhere,” and that she never accepted any earmarks as Governor of Alaska. Both of those statements were lies.
Has Joe Biden ever publicly DENIED having supported (albeit indirectly) the BTN?
Incidentally, Biden voted for a larger funding bill which contained the BTN earmark, but he did not support it champion that earmark specifically. Palin very specifically sought money for it, only stpped when it became a politocal liability and never returned the money.