Biden and Warren have a private meeting. Do think he got to second base?
This election is the gift that keeps on giving.
Biden-Warren 2016? That might turn Hillary downright mean!
Why assume that this is about the presidential election, and not just a sitting VP and a sitting senator discussing, say, proposed legislation?
In fact, how would this even be about the presidential election? Neither of them is running as of now, and even if they did, the time to pick a running mate is well after you’ve announced.
The press is doing the assuming. This would be a non-story except for the potential impact on election news.
Talking to key members of the party before announcing is a pretty normal party of the process. That’s got nothing to do with picking running mates. Warren is a pretty big figure in the party and hasn’t endorsed any candidate. She’s exactly the kind of person you talk to before declaring.
If Warren’s not going to head the bill herself, I think I’d rather she keeping on kicking butt in the senate.
Nods and winks, hints and suggestions, platform negotiation. Hillary still carries the stench of Clintonista, blue dead dog, menshevik, Republican Lite. This troubles and worries people like Biden, Warren, and me. So, maybe she has evolved, maybe she really is ready to lead for change. Maybe.
But I’m willing to bet that when Hillary consults Horndog Bill, he reminds her that she very well may be able to win the nomination and the Presidency without the enthusiastic support of Biden, Warren and me. That we will vote for her anyway, rather than hand the Oval Office over to one of the meth-addled baboons the Republicans have to offer. She won’t need enthusiasm, a grudging acceptance might be enough.
In my case, he would be right. If the Republican nominee is as odious as seems likely…then there’s a very good chance that Hillary will win without us, and need not compromise, need not make concessions. She can lay out a platform that is apple pie and cookies progressive, but not anything that will worry Money.
Money doesn’t like Lizzy Warren, but Money isn’t afraid of her. Yet.
Biden is definitely asking around now, so this is no longer just press speculation:
Aw contrary, press speculation is the whole point! They aren’t threatening anything, they had a meeting. And if all of this press speculation results in Hilary thinking a bit more, ah, progressively about the positions she intends to run for…well, what a happy coincidence! Albeit unintended, of course…
Biden’s having a lot of meetings. VPs don’t meet with donors for VP stuff.
It’s already awfully late for Biden to enter the race, if he intends to take on Hillary rather than merely being the backup guy if her campaign should founder. Think of Wes Clark jumping into the 2004 race against a much weaker field: he declared on 9/17/2003, and Biden isn’t likely to declare by 9/17 of this year.
If Biden was going to run, he should have been at this stage last winter, not now. If he enters the race in the next month or two, nothing good will come of it.
And the meeting with Warren specifically strikes me as an odd thing. One of Biden’s signature achievements was his role in passing the 2006 bankruptcy law, which is exactly the sort of legislation Warren most deplores; if she could wiggle her nose and have the bankruptcy law revert to what it was in 2005, she’d do it in a heartbeat. (Remember when many of us called him Sen. Biden (D-MBNA)? There was a reason for that.)
Has he come around to regretting his role in that? What would he say when questioned about it? Because he surely would face those questions if he ran.
That’s one of the problems with representing certain states. Delaware is corporate central so all Delaware reps are business-friendly. It’s like New Yorkers and Wall Street, Iowans and corn, and Michigan reps and the auto industry.
The honest way for Biden to answer that is that as a Senator he represented Delaware but as President he represents the entire country. He served his state’s interests as Senator and he makes no apologies for that. If he flip-flops or waffles it will be a direct hit against his primary appeal: his honesty and straight-talker rep.
But as to what else you said, it’s true: if he gets in it’s to be there if Clinton falls. But he can’t be there unless he’s in the race. Otherwise it goes to Sanders or the DNC has to scramble to try to prop up O’Malley. If Clinton is irrepairably damaged or has to drop out, Biden would be well placed to win the nomination, but only if he’s actually running.
Also, the history of late entries is kind of misleading. Wes Clark, Rick Perry, and Fred Thompson had every opportunity to win their party’s nominations. They failed because of their own missteps, not because of their timing. Perry actively screwed up, Thompson never put much effort into it, and Wes Clark listened to his handlers too much and came off looking like a politician, and a bad one at that. If the Wes Clark that had been on CNN as a frequent commentator had showed up for the campaign he would have had a good chance.
That ain’t gonna fly in a race for the Dem nomination. Because he didn’t even represent the interests of the people of Delaware in his support for the bankruptcy bill. He represented the interests of the banksters headquartered in Delaware.
Anything less than a full repudiation, and Sanders and O’Malley will chew him up.
I don’t think this is exactly coincidence. If you enter the race earlier, you make these mistakes back in April, when fewer voters are paying attention yet, and there’s time to recover from them, learn from them, and find your game. If you enter the race late, you’ve thrown away your margin of error, and the least thing can sink you.
I doubt the bankruptcy bill is going to be much of an albatross for him. Clinton also supported the bankruptcy law changes and it hasn’t even been an issue. Yes, I know she missed the vote in 2005, but she voted for the first version in 2001 which was not substantially different. It hasn’t even come up as an issue. It won’t for Biden either unless someone important brings it up. Which won’t happen, because Sanders doesn’t want to go negative and is doing everything in his power NOT to beat Clinton. If the people want to elect Sanders in a populist wave, that’s fine, but Sanders is not going after any of his opponents.
Y’know, I’m not normally very sensitive to accusations of sexism, but I really have to ask: If Biden had met with, say, Martin O’Malley, would you have made this comment?
The dirty old pervert and ‘Pocahontas’ and as importantly their Masters at DNC headquarters held a ‘pow wow’.
The Pervert is seeking Warren’s endorsement if his runs. That’s obvious. The DNC know Warren will not run. She’s being held in reserve for the next Presidential election.
Warren does what the DNC tells her to do as does every Dem. politician.
Some people seem unaware just how much power the DNC wields.
But that would make no sense, given what “second base” is. But Christie? That’s might be a better question. 
Id’ just like to add, you’re being way overly sensitive about a thing that you’re normally not very sensitive to.
A liar and a plagiarist walk into a bar…
Regards,
Shodan
Perhaps you could expand on this Pervert thing.
Or any of the rest of it.