Bill Clinton threatens to sue restaurant for showing picture of Chelsea

Shouldn’t this be in the Pit with a title like" I know Bill Clinton has been out of office for like 7 friken years, but I still think he is a stupid poo poo head"?

I have often heard of former presidents being addressed simply as president so and so. When Jimmy Carter was on the news recently with his new book they referred to him as “President Jimmy Carter”. Maybe it is some sort of honorific?

Don’t they get to be called “President” even after they are out of office? I think the standard is you call them whatever they last were. If he were to become the UN ambassador, he’d be Ambassador Clinton from now on.

I thought for both the millitary and the civil service they are referred to as whatever the highest title or rank they ever held. I think that holds true for retirement pay as well.

ETA this only applies when they no longer hold active rank or title so if he was appointed Abassador then I guess he would be called that. But after he left that office he would revert back to “Mr. President”

Could be. What if one were a Representative and a Senator. Surely one wouldn’t presume that “Senator” is a higher rank, would one? :wink:

According to this site, he would still be referred to as President Clinton.

Well, the ex-prez is after all still a lawyer. :smiley:

Yeah, but telling off Bill Clinton in New York? That does nothing for the restaurant.

I think that probably depends on the person in office.

Sure. Why not? 1/100 vs 1/435. Higher pay, bigger budget, longer term in office, less direct contact with constituents. So all together the houses are equal but individually I see nothing wrong with saying a Senator outranks a Representative. The Army seems to agree.

from here warning PDF

But he’s not licensed to practice at the moment.

Is there some reason he should be? Do you expect he will need to practice to earn a living? Or did you have another point?

I say BIG WHOOP!
Bill just needs more attention in the shadow of Hilary, or maybe his counsel just needed to do something to appear useful.

WTF? We’re talking about his letter re his daughter’s picture. My item was in reply to post 27 to the effect that Bill Clinton is still a lawyer. I replied, correctly, that at the moment he isn’t a lawyer because he doesn’t have a license. He cannot practice law and without a license he cannot send nasty letters on behalf of his adult daughter. Clear enough for you, askeptic?

I’m not so sure. In my lay opinion, I’d say the picture is being used in a commercial/advertising manner. It’s prominently featured in the restaurant’s front window, presumably to draw business by association. I would say it is using Chelsea’s image to draw customers in the restaurant. I have no idea what the courts think about this, but I certainly wouldn’t display something like that without a release of some sort.

What makes Chelsea Cinton a public figure? Be cause her father used to be President? That makes her fair game?

Not asking to be snarky…I’m genuinely curious why she would be denied the rights of a private citizen.

Has she taken any role in her mother’s campaign? If so then she has no more right to privacy than Michelle Obama, Elizabeth Edwards, or Judith Giuliani.

Well, to my knowledge she hasn’t, but I can’t say I pay attention. But that begs the question - to what extent? Actively campaigning, sure…but answering the phones or licking envelopes…does that mean she’s relinquishing privacy?

The letter seems fake to me.

One would presume that if she had previously requested the photo be taken down, that fact would be mentioned somewhere in the letter. However, I’ll grant you that it is an unclear point, because it does not have to be mentioned in the letter.

How do I know he’s not her attorney? At the bottom of the letter it is signed Douglas J. Band, Counselor to President Clinton. Chelsea has never been president. If Doug is her lawyer, and the letter is written on her behalf, why doesn’t he describe himself as her lawyer?

Somewhere on that letter there should be an indicator that Chelsea herself wants the photo taken down. There is currently nothing in that letter positively stating that Chelsea even knows anything about the request. It’s on her dad’s letterhead, written and signed by her dad’s lawyer, indicating that the photo has “come to our attention” and “we ask that you” take it down.