Good thing the live feed was prayed into being by the Pope and not developed by scientists, or else that would be ironic.
God hates all science except for the science that allows the dissemination of the message that God hates science.
I think.
Here’s another place to watch the live stream:
http://thesleeperawakened.blogspot.com/2014/02/live-stream-of-debate-between-bill-nye.html
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That’s just a page with the Youtube video embedded, you might as well just go directly to the Youtube page:
Debate has started. Ken Ham seems to think that he has a major point in separating science that he can observe NOW as different from science that analyzes what happened THEN. Two kinds of science. He has no beef with what happens now, but since no one was around years ago, it’s open to speculation, i.e., the bible is right, the flood happened, Adam and Eve lived in the Garden of Eden, and sin created atheists.
I must say, I was as worried as many in the skeptical/science camp. But I think Bill Nye went way beyond my expectations and performed brilliantly. And actually Ken Ham was far worse than I’d imagined he would be. He’s certainly no William Lane Craig.
Would that be historical science, observational science, or biblical science?
Granted. But I wish Aron Ra or Matt Dillihunty had stood in for him. Matt especially, as an ex-Baptist preacher. He could meet Ham head-on.
I got tired of hearing Ham say, “There’s this book…” to answer how life and the universe started. Well, there are a lot more books that say we don’t know.
It was the predictable clash of faith versus reason. Reason explained, and faith didn’t listen.
I think most fundies believe science is real, and reliable enough, but also that discoverable physical laws simply do not apply to God, who wrote them and can break them. I once asked my grandmother how all species of animals could fit on the Ark; she replied that God could shrink them, “God can do anything.”
I really have no complaints with Bill though. I don’t know Matt Dillihunty well enough to comment, but I think Aron Ra might have come off a bit too strident to be as effective. Sure, he’d have every argument covered from every angle, but given the venue and the relatively more mainstream publicity, I actually think Bill Nye, with his focus on and enthusiasm for science, and his quirky charm, was a really good fit.
I wouldn’t be surprised if a fair number of people saw this tonight who never engaged their own mind in the debate were inspired at some level by some of Nye’s science facts.
Nothing new here, of course. The thing that sucks about debates like this is that it’s like having a boxing match and telling each fighter they get 3 punches to knock out his opponent, when it really needs to be a 10-round bout proving the superior boxer. Any of a dozen statements that Ham or Nye made as almost throwaway statements could and should be examined in-depth to get anywhere.
Yeah, I wish the moderator would’ve allowed some actual back-and-forth discussion beyond a single 1-minute rebuttal. That aspect was frustrating and must have been very much so to Nye.
God himself couldn’t convince Ken Ham that he’s wrong.
That was really boring.
Bill Nye teaches astronomy and human ecology at Cornell.
And with $62 million of chipboard he probably could. The miracle would be in preventing it from falling apart the moment it got wet. This ain’t marine ply we’re talking about.
So, if anyone knows: how can I see the debate on TV? Does anyone know the channel it aired on originally (if it was on a channel at all) and if so when a re-run will be?
skip 30 or so minutes in to get to the debate. Nye did a great job over all.