BILLICK! Fired

I think he deserves it, but I didn’t think it was coming.

Who else is on the chopping block?

Cam Cameron, surely?

Wow- I thought they promised Billick he would be back just a few weeks ago.

With Parcells in, Cameron is reportedly on the way out in Miami after one year.

I haven’t heard anybody talk about it, but I wonder if Kansas City will ditch Herm Edwards after they went 4-12. Or if Marvin Lewis will be out in Cincy.

Our SF Dopers sure think Nolan should go in 49er-land, and I think they may be right. Linnehan is supposedly getting another chance in St. Louis, and I don’t think Mangini has work out his welcome in YorkJersey. Detroit has to keep Marinelli (especially since they’re canning Martz), and I’m sure the Bills are very happy with how Jauron handled the team this year. I thought he was a schmuck when they hired him, but at least this year, I was wrong. I can’t see Chicago firing Lovie Smith. Atlanta is already changing coaches. That’s all of the sub-.500 teams right there.

Wow, I need a cigarette. Billick - so smug, and so… ineffective.

He’s been riding that Super Bowl with the anemic offense for so long and has delivered… what, exactly, since then?

I just hope nobody steals Jason Garrett from Dallas

Of course, as Marty Schottenheimer will attest, that doesn’t mean those are the only guys who might potentially be up against the wall. :slight_smile:

Yeah, Marley they did.

I guess they had to say it to keep it all together. I’m telling you. . .he should have been fired just for his complete misreading of his chances in the Miami game.

Like Hippy said, he seriously hasn’t done anything since winning the Superbowl. Last year, they were 13-3 (or so), but they greatly benefitted from turnovers, and weren’t that good.

His play calling has been down right atrocious at time.

So, I don’t know who else. I really don’t know how you can stick with Marvin Lewis in Cincy. He really did turn that franchise around, but he’s been resting on that since doing it. That team is out of control.

Don’t know who they’ll bring in. I’d like to see Mike Martz, maybe. But, the Ravens are in for some lean years. Everyone on the defense is losing a step. Ogden is probably retiring, so I don’t know what they’ll do at LT.

The secondary is terrible and the young guys are showing no promise. The only guys who are any good are slipping past their peak.

Ravens haters are going to have a good few years coming up, I think.

True, although that was a sort of unique situation.

Denny Green might get another chance with one of these teams. He’s a pretty good coach, especially good at offense, and that’s just what the Ravens need.

I guess Bill Cowher is going to be the guy that everybody wants (we’d take him in Minnesota) but I don’t know if he’s ready to come back yet.

They’ve slid pretty far since 2005, too. I thought they were worse than 7-9 this year - I guess I stopped paying attention after they went to 2-6. The defense still stinks, too.

Speaking of Cowher, I missed one team: Carolina went 7-9. Doesn’t Cowher live in NC or something? I have to think they would be interested if he is willing to come out of retirement, although that team has probably gone as far as it can go with or without him.

This is what killed me. He had a three yards and a cloud of dust offense, and he kept calling plays designed for Randy Moss when he was in Minnesota. By the end of October, I was yelling at my TV every time McNair or Boller dropped back to pass on third and short… by the first week of December, I was just shaking my head and seeing what other games were on.

After the experience with Billick, Martz is the absolute last guy I’d want to see there. He’s the guy who spent years under-utilizing Marshall Faulk in favor of the vertical game. Sure, he was successful for a while, but he stuck with it even when it was obviously not working. Sound familiar?

I honestly don’t know who my first choice would be. I think the Ravens have been pretty much built for Martyball, but you’re right about the aging team, and the the window looks to be closed now. I think Newsome and a new head coach could pretty much reshape them in whatever direction they chose.

I’d kill to have Phil Savage back, though.

When the Falcons showed interest in Cowher earlier in the year, it was reported he told them definitively he would not be coaching anywhere until 2009 at the earliest.

What kills me is Billick was supposed to be an offesnive “genius” in Minnesota- guess its easy to be a genius when you have Moss, Carter. Cunningham. etc.
Also, in nine years he couldn’t find an even average QB?

Odd that the Dolphins GM is reported fired, but not Cameron- yet,anyway.

And I wouldn’t hold the Carolina coach accountable for this year- hell, going 7-9 having to start Vinny and Matt Moore could seem like a great coaching job.

Detroiter here.
If we get rid of Martz, I’ll crap myself. Effective, ineffective, clashing with Marinelli, I don’t care. Above all, we need continuity. Martz didn’t overthrow receivers or make them drop balls. The Lions had the worst defense as well. That plays into it. Sign the coaches to 3 year extensions, they have their jobs for that long, at least.

I fear the opposite will be true, though. Many are pounding the drum for Bill Cowher over here.

According to the story I read, the owner never talks to the press during the season, so he did not publicly confirm a statement Billick himself made a few weeks ago saying he would be back.

So, no, I don’t think anyone promised him anything. In typical Billick fashion, he simply tooted his own horn.

By the same token, it isn’t like he’s done “nothing” since winning the Super Bowl. He’s been in the playoffs relatively regularly, and finished 13 - 3 last season. Of course, the trouble with that is, if you are in the playoffs, but not winning Super Bowls, we consider you a failure and ask for more. Thus, there are at most two non-failures as coaches in any given season, a rather stupid concept.

Still, I won’t miss Billick. I thought he was over-hyped in 2000, I think he is supercilious and smug, and I think he has hurt Baltimore’s chances over the years by insisting on using sub-standard personnel in the offense simply to make himself appear that much more the “genius” for succeding with them. Kinda like Mike Holmgren, but with a less appealing personality.

After thinking about this a little more, I’d to promote Rex Ryan and find a new DC or give Russ Grimm a shot. I’m leaning more toward Grimm, just because I think he’s a little better prepared for the job, but I’d be happy with either of them.

I’d kill for a Rex Ryan. Seriously, name someone and they die.

Heh… well, if you’d made that offer before Billick was fired…

The only downside is that Billick is likely to get a studio commentator’s seat next year, and we’ll all have to see even more of him than before.

Cameron may be back - the Fins’ problems have been in getting players, and they haven’t given him any to work with. Even Matt Millen has done a better job as GM.

Cowher I don’t think wants the job anymore, or he’d still be in Pittsburgh.

Shanahan should lose his job. He won’t, of course.

Maybe if KC is lucky, they can get Marty back. At least the Chiefs were less of a joke when he was around.