So, would photos and video convince you?
And just what remedies would your son advocate for the 3,000 who were murdered by this man in the 9/11 attacks? Nothing? Just live and let live?
ETA: Let me be clear that I am not ascribing your son’s opinion to you. The two questions above are unrelated, and are meant as specific questions to you and your son, respectively.
“I realized some time ago that I’m not separate from nature just because I have a primate brain - an upper brain - because underneath the primate brain, there’s a mammalian brain, and beneath the mammalian brain, there’s a reptilian brain; and it’s those two lower brains that made the upper brain possible in the first place. Here’s the way it works: The primate brain says, ‘Give peace a chance.’ The mammalian brain says, ‘Give peace a chance, but first let’s kill this motherfucker.’ And the reptilian brain says, ‘Let’s just kill the motherfucker, go to the peace rally and get laid.’”
– George Carlin
Look, I realize that as non-moderators we can’t forbid him to post, but PLEASE don’t invite him to… 
Fuck that. Cheering the death of a human being = bad. So I won’t do it.
You cheerers go on and have your fun. If you want to sneer at me and question my love for my country when I decline to participate in that, though, you earn my disdain in response.
Not the ones who care about being right, like you and me…
Our respect for life derives from our compassion, we can afford to shrug off our brother’s need to let out the evil mojo, so long as no one is actively harmed. A desire for vengence is kinda depraved, but since the vengence has already occured, not so much harm. Not quite so much a pep rally for death that way. No blame.
I gotta agree, that’s in bad taste.
I did not cheer, but I don’t care if others did. Honestly, he killed 2 friends of mine in the Pentagon. I’d shoot ObL myself given the chance, and I wouldn’t care if he was armed or not.
I wonder if the SEAL dudes who took out OBL are the same ones who took out the Somali pirates a couple of years ago.
They do get around.
So when I roll my eyes IRL while I type that, you can’t see it?
Celebrating in the streets over the death of a guy who was responsible for the death of 300 inoocents victims is one thing, celebrating in the streets over the deaths of those 3000 innocent victims is another.
I wouldn’t go out celebrating in the streets but I can see how some people might want to.
Well, its hard to justify everything America does (especially the invasion of Iraq) but certainly taking someone like Osama bin Laden out of commission was a good thing.
In fact other than the invasion of Iraq and the laissez faire attitudes that led to the financial crisis, I don’t know that we have done very much wrong in the last ten years or so. :smack:
I was being sarcastic but Fannie and Freddie are not pure as the driven snow. Their hybrid status made them susceptible to market pressures that drove them to start buying up more crap mortgages than they would have liked to (see Countrywide and Mozillo threatening to boycott Fannie and Freddie if they didn’t relax their standards). Ginnie Mae on the other hand as an entirely government run entity maintained their underwriting standards and ended up taking very little damage from the mortgage meltdown. Now they do as much (if not more) business than Fannie or Freddie and noone else does any.
If you are looking for a precipitating factor to the mortgage meltdown it was the advent of private label mortgage securities. There once was a time when almost everyone sold their mortgages to Fannie and Freddie because there wasn’t much of a market for securities issued by anyone else.
Obama is about as responsible for killing bin Laden as bin Laden is responsible for killing the folks in the WTC and he deserves about as much credit.
Bush did not start the Iraq war either then. He authorized it but it was those soldiers who really did it. Maybe it was the Iraqis who fought back. they started it. If we walked in and they did not resist, there would have been no war.
I was trying to say that Obama IS responsible for killing bin Laden (and deserves credit for it) and bin Laden IS responsible for WTC attacks (and deserves “credit” for it); just like Bush IS responsible for deceiving the country into believing that invading Iraq in order to get popular support for invading a country that was aboslutely no threat to America (and deserves “credit” for it).
Oh no. Bush isn’t responsible for that. It’s the words – the words he spoke. It’s their fault!
Nancy Pelosi is understandably delighted that Bin Laden has been caught.
I guess this quote from a September 7, 2006 press conference must have come from someone cleverly impersonating her:
Either that or Nancy Pelosi is a shameless fucking hypocrite. But perish the thought!
She is a politician. Even the ones who don’t want to make the rich richer and everyone else poor lie most of the time.
That’s it? That’s all you got? You brought a Nerf bat to a gunfight?