Birthplace of Aviation?

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It hasn’t changed tv nor real life. Most Yutzes are from Ohio. I submitted that as my idea for our license plate, but it evidently lost.

Early Out – you continue to demonstrate your igorance.

Some questions for you:

  • from what address were the Wright Brothers patents addressed?
  • at what airfield did the development of prototypes for the Army Flyers occur?
  • where was the first airfield devoted to heavier-than-air planes?
  • in fact, where was the first aviation fatality in an aircraft?
  • at what location were the first turnable aircraft developed?
  • why did Wright-Patterson Field get built in Dayton?

You’ve demonstrated you’re a smartass – just not a very smart one!

Sam, better do some more research into the power/weight ratios of the Wright 1903 engine and the Langley/Manley engine. The Wright Flyer worked almost in spite of it, and Langley’s plane failed despite much more power. You might also look into the Wright’s wind-tunnel work and development, based on theory, of the first useful aircraft propellers. They “didn’t discover anything”? Back to the books, sonny.

Also read the several historical analyses of Curtiss’s rebuild of the Langley machine, which barely even resembled the original by the time he was done. The Smithsonian, which was trying to uphold the good name of Langley, its director, later retracted the whole study. Curtiss was, after all, trying to break Wright patents by showing they weren’t the first, and partnering with the Smithsonian was convenient for both.

So ailerons came along “only” six years later? That was a helluva long time under the circumstances. Note, though, that the Wrights had already invented and patented them, too - forcing Curtiss, among others, to relocate theirs between the wings instead of along the trailing edges.

Do you have a point?

Elvis, the Wrights did engineering work. They made some cool machinery. They made some new measurements. They did NOT make any breakthroughs. Parallel aircraft construction was going on, and lots of people knew how to do it.

The principles of flight were laid down by Bernoulli in the late 1700’s. If there had been engines of suitable power to weight ratio available, there would have been powered flight in the mid-late 1800’s.

Mooney252, tone it down a notch, take it to the appropriate forum, or go fly a kite. Your choice.

Why limit it to that time frame? If Leonardo had such an engine, powered flight would have occured.

Sam, consider also the concept of controllability before you continue to dismiss the Wrights’ work.

This discussion is about firsts. Others were trying hard but didn’t do it. The Wrights did it. Why are you arguing that?