"Black Box" scam

My father told me a tall tale the other night.

Late '70’s. Guy owns a chemical plant in a midwestern state. He is approached by a mysterious fellow who wants to show him an invention.

Now… given the Rashamon effect, I highly suspect the plant owner left out a detail or two when he told my father this one. Still, I’m mostly interested in how this stunt was pulled, given it actually happened. There are plenty of descriptions of ‘free energy’ scams on the net, but none of them sounds this impressive.

The ‘invention’ was a small opaque black box weighing roughly one pound. All on the outside is a switch and a wall socket-style plugin.

The stranger puts the box on a card table the plant owner provides, and proceeds to plug stuff into the box. Lo and behold, it powers everything from toasters to TVs. They leave a bunch of stuff plugged in, lock the room, come back the next day. Everything’s still going.

They do this for a few days, dragging the biggest equipment they can into the room, but it never runs out of juice. The stranger claims it’s all a simple chemical reaction in there - the ultimate battery, you might say - and has enough power to last a household for 50 years. They could be sold for a hundred bucks.

Of course, he won’t open the box. He wants the plant owner to help him mass-produce more boxes, and offers him a cut for roughly seventy thousand, claiming he needs money up front for ‘security’. Why? He’s pursue by various companies and the government, won’t stay anywhere but in the plant owner’s home, constantly on the run, and displays several bullet scars on his torso from narrow escapes.

Plant owner figures, “Hell, even if what’s in that box only lasts a few days, it’s still revolutionary.” He gives him the money in cash. The guy takes his box and promptly vanishes. The owner eventually tells the story to my father, and displays the bank slip where he withdrew the money.

Ideas?

Ideas about what? Feasibility? It’s literary quality as a tall tale? As a practical unless there is a nuclear battery of some kind in the box (extremely unlikely) this story is complete BS.

Sounds like a variation on this.

This reminds me of an article I read awhile back of a guy who claimed to have a new way of transferring data at an incredibly high speed. He would run the same scam as the guy in the op and the gas-pill guy that Chuck linked to, getting money up front and never revealing his revolutionary secret. He would demonstrate his high speed data transfers by playing a video on one computer that was supposedly located on the hard drive of a second computer. It turned out that the first “computer” was just a box with a VCR in it.

These guys typically have low levels of education and are career conmen. I don’t have a clue as to what was in that black box but I would bet that whatever it was would make you go “Duh!” I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a cord that came out of the back of the box and plugged into the wall.

i wonder if science as we know it isn’t just some conman with a vcr?

THE KEELY ENGINE COMPANY
Not to mention http://www.freelectricity.com/ and others like it.

A fool and his money are soon parted. And there’s one born every minute. You never run out of fools. They’re an inexhaustible supply of cash.

Hey, sailor. I sent you $20 for instructions on how to get my $15 back from freelectricity.com. Where are my instruction? I warn you, I’m inexhaustable.:slight_smile:

instructions dammit

“A penny for your thoughts, young man!”

“Hmm. ‘A fool and his money are soon parted.’”

“Excellent! Here’s your penny.”

My thoughts exactly. When you have eliminated the possible, Homer Simpson makes a sound.

I figure the ‘missing’ part of the story is where this guy got a minute or two alone in the room to do some ‘preliminary testing’.

I have a sneaking suspicion that if you open the box you’ll find it’s nothing but a junction box. One of the devices it was supposedly powering was likely sending power into the box. Power cords aren’t directional, but everyone assumes that if the power cord plugs into the box then the box must send power out through it.

Ain’t no such thing as “Energy Output: up to 30 Kilowatts/hour”.
Other than that, sound’s like a really good deal. Free electricity! Yeah.
Peace,
mangeorge

No wonder California has electricity problems if the average house uses 18,000 Kilowats. Although some of the Cristmas light dispalys look like they get close.

I wonder if he knows that the units are bogus?

He probably does. But most of his victims don’t.