Black people and stereotypes

[CanvasShoes]

I still don’t know what a “hizzo” is, but it sounds cute!

Reminds me of an old song from the 70s called “Fantastic Voyage” (which I think has been remade by some hip hop type group, but the original was much Much MUCH better!!!)

[fizzygoodmakefeelnice]

In secondary school RE classes they drilled into our little brains the message that stereotypes are bad, and if you believe in any stereotypes you are bad. How can that be right? What automatically makes all stereotypes harmful? Certainly some are, but most are just observations based on culture, many are complimentary.

The only harmful stereotypes are outdated ones, manufactured ones or ones based on any kind of racial supremacy rather than racial difference.

Anyways:

I bet you can’t dance very well.

• No idea, I only dance when I’m drunk and then I’m no fit state to observe. Probably I can’t.

I bet you own a pair of raggedy docksiders and khaki cutoffs.

• Add me to the ignorant of docksiders and cutoffs gang.

I bet you’ve worn the combination of the above during the cold of winter.

• I might have done without knowing it.

I bet you either really love heavy metal or country music.

• Neither

I bet you like mayonaisse.

• Love it on chips

I bet a collard green has never touched your lips.

• Nope, hadn’t heard of one before today.

I bet you look your nose down on people who wear big baggy jeans and bandanas tied around their head.

• I live in big baggy jeans and bandanas

I bet you live in the suburbs.
*I live in a field in the middle of nowhere

I bet you live in a middle class household.

• Yus

I bet you don’t have any black friends.
*Nope

I bet you don’t know what “Dark-n-Lovely” is or what it does or how it smells.

• Nope

I bet you’re a big nerd like all white people.

• Medium nerdiness.

So I’m a mayonaisse eating, baggies wearing middle class bad dancer… I can live with that

[BwanaBob]

*Originally posted by pizzabrat *
**but if everyone in the theater is talking, than it’s not inconsiderate, it’s accepted (and expected). The one who doesn’t talk is the odd one.

And on a side note, I’ll always defend movie talkers because I don’t mind them at all. Movies aren’t a church service, nor are they live performances that can be interrupted, and they’re watched communally for a reason. As long as everyone is talking about the movie, it’s fine; besides, the speakers are so loud in theaters that you can’t possibly miss anything said. **

WHAT HORSESHIT!

If everyone decided to pull out their dicks and masturbate in the theatre and you didn’t I guess you’d be the odd one?

NO, you’d be the normal one. Where the hell were you raised to believe it’s okay to blabber on when people are trying to pay attention to a film they’ve paid $10 or more to see. Don’t give me crap about it being too loud to hear others; we hear you assholes just fine, you raise your voices loud enough to hear each other.

Movies are shown communally because it’s economical to show a new film to hundreds at one sitting.

Being quiet in a theatre is the DEFAULT, like NOT SMOKING. You as the talker/smoker are the interferer. You want to bullshit, stay in the lobby or go rent the film in three months, or gather a hundred of like minded-inconsiderate pricks and pool your money for a private showing.

As you can tell this a huge sore point with me. One day someone will go postal on a talker. That person will want me on their jury.

It’s time that people who behave respectfully take back what is rightfully theirs.

[pizzabrat]

BwanaBob

If everyone decided to pull out their dicks and masturbate in the theatre and you didn’t I guess you’d be the odd one?

NO, you’d be the normal one.

…don’t tell me you’re not aware that there are theaters where this IS NORMAL! And that’s exactly my point, there’s a place for everyone.

You want to bullshit, stay in the lobby or go rent the film in three months, or gather a hundred of like minded-inconsiderate pricks and pool your money for a private showing.

Again, this situation takes place plenty of times. Many theaters are filled with talkers who obviously have no problem with it.

It’s time that people who behave respectfully take back what is rightfully theirs.

Oh yeah? And why is it rightfully yours?

And why did you keep saying “you” when referring to theater talkers? I never said that I talk at movies, just that I don’t mind those who do.

[fizzygoodmakefeelnice]

Many theaters are filled with talkers who obviously have no problem with it.

Er… maybe the talkers don’t have a problem with it. The people trying to listen to the film probably do.

Oh yeah? And why is it rightfully yours?

Because they’ve paid money to be able to enjoy the film? Because they have the common courtesy to keep their mouths shut while other people are trying to listen?

[pizzabrat]

fizzygoodmakefeelnice
Because they’ve paid money to be able to enjoy the film? Because they have the common courtesy to keep their mouths shut while other people are trying to listen?

They paid too, and maybe that’s why they don’t appreciate self-proclaimed nannies telling them to be quiet. You don’t think there should be talking in theaters, understandable. Some people like to talk in theaters, also understandable. What makes you think you’re the right one and they’re wrong? It’s just a difference of preference.

[msmith537]

*Originally posted by pizzabrat *
They paid too, and maybe that’s why they don’t appreciate self-proclaimed nannies telling them to be quiet. You don’t think there should be talking in theaters, understandable. Some people like to talk in theaters, also understandable. What makes you think you’re the right one and they’re wrong? It’s just a difference of preference. **

What the fuck is wrong with you? Want planet are you living on where it is appropriate to talk during a movie? They even TELL YOU before the movie starts: Quit please. That means SHUT THE FUCK UP!! White or black, people didn’t pay $10 to hear you jabber like a monkey. You want to talk over the movie? go rent the DVD is 6 months.

JuanitaTech
The only I dancing I do is with my kids to the SpongeBob SquarePants theme song and to the song that comes on at the end of Dora the Explorer.

Is that some kind of gang-slang for drugs?

JuanitaTech
Jordans are ugly. All of them. I wouldn’t be caught dead in anything by FUBU. I ain’t gots no big puffy down jacket, neither.

Are they “played-out” now?

[quote]
JuanitaTech

I bet you really love either rap or hip hop.

[quote]
Yep. I also love nu-metal, heavy metal, alternative, jazz, big band, swing and early punk.

I bet you love KFC and watermellon.

Nope to both.

quote:

I bet a hockey stick, tennis racket or ski pole has never touched your hand.

I’ve played field hockey and tennis but I’ve never skiied.

What? You trying to be white or somethin?

JuanitaTech
Suits I like. You bet your sweet bippy I look down on people who wear the Dockers-braided belt-deck shoes-polo-style shirt combination. It’s boring and suburbanite.

JuanitaTech
Nope. Never have [lived in assisted housing], either.

Oh… homeless?

JuanitaTech
Yep. My mom divorced my dad when I was a little over two. She remarried when I was six and divorced him when I was eleven or so. She only had two kids, though, both with her first husband.

-HAAA!!! See!! Black stereotype!!

JuanitaTech
Well, a few of my friends have knocked up their wives but no hizzo, at least not to my knowledge. I have no incarcerated friends.

Oh… I’m sorry…were they killed in drive-bys?

JuanitaTech
quote:

I bet you don’t know what a 401k is or what it does.

I do and I do.

I didn’t say a 40 oz

JuanitaTech
say fo-shizzle my nizzle whenever I see Snoop on TV. I can’t help it.

Ooops, I gotta run. I gots to go shine my gold teeth, biatch.

Peace out dog…er…I mean… [WHITE VOICE]enjoy the rest of your day. It was a pleasure making your acquaintance.[/WHITE VOICE]

[Creative_Munster]

You are really dim. If I pay money to see a film and I can’t enjoy it because some jackass is spouting off something, I’m suddenly a self-proclaimed nanny if I tell them to keep it quiet? No, I’m some guy who doesn’t need my night out ruined by some inconsiderate bastards.

When some people talk in theaters, a few can ruin it for the many. Does this same thing happen when people are being silent? No, because everyone can hear the movie and concentrate on the movie they paid to see.

Get a clue.

[Creative_Munster]

msmith beat me to it. Oh well.

[vasyachkin]

*Originally posted by Sinful *
I just don’t understand why someone would perpetrate thier own stereotype?

well Sinful you obviously assume that they should be ashamed of what they are, and hide it at any cost. and this is truly racist.

i much prefer prefer loud vulgar thug type black guys to the sniveling little shits that try to appear white so that they could get a promotion.

of course, i am not saying that if you’re black and act “white” than you’re necessarily not genuine.

for the record, i consider myself white, though CanvasShoes apparently thinks i belong to a “russian” race

[pizzabrat]

msmith537
What the fuck is wrong with you? Want planet are you living on where it is appropriate to talk during a movie? They even TELL YOU before the movie starts: Quit please. That means SHUT THE FUCK UP!! White or black, people didn’t pay $10 to hear you jabber like a monkey. You want to talk over the movie? go rent the DVD is 6 months.

Like I pointed out earlier, talking OVER the movie is impossible (unless your voice can beat THX). They sure do tell you to be quiet, but they also tell you to stay tuned while they bring you these messages, and that electric dildos are “personal massagers”, and condoms are for “family planning”, and sex toys are only for husbands and wives as they are “marital aides”, and to keep you seatbelt fastened until the light goes off, and to cross at crosswalks only, and (back to the theater) to not bring outside food or drink. People aren’t expected to follow all of those rules.

[monstro]

pizzabrat, maybe we can open up a “talking allowed” movie theater together. It would only show scary movies.

[gobear]

Well despite my appearance, it has already been established through an MPSIMS thread that I’m really black because the fifth digit in my SSN is even and I love hot sauce on all kinds of food. Monstro’s check list clinches my African American heritage (despite bein 1/2 Choctaw and half white–go figure)
In secondary school RE classes they drilled into our little brains the message that stereotypes are bad, and if you believe in any stereotypes you are bad. How can that be right? What automatically makes all stereotypes harmful? Certainly some are, but most are just observations based on culture, many are complimentary.

The only harmful stereotypes are outdated ones, manufactured ones or ones based on any kind of racial supremacy rather than racial difference.

Anyways:

I bet you can’t dance very well.

• No , I dance very well

I bet you own a pair of raggedy docksiders and khaki cutoffs.

• Nope, I only wear fly threads.

I bet you’ve worn the combination of the above during the cold of winter.

• Again, no.

I bet you either really love heavy metal or country music.

• Neither

I bet you like mayonaisse.

• I LOATHE mayo, but I love me some hot sauce.

I bet a collard green has never touched your lips.

• Wrong, I was raised on 'em, but since I’m from the South that criterion really doesn’t apply.

I bet you look your nose down on people who wear big baggy jeans and bandanas tied around their head.

• Nope, unless the baggy jeans are hanging below the butt to expose big baggy boxers.

I bet you live in the suburbs.
*Yes, but so do many black people–ever hear of Prince George’s County?

I bet you live in a middle class household.

• Yep

I bet you don’t have any black friends.
*Nope

I bet you don’t know what “Dark-n-Lovely” is or what it does or how it smells.

• I know what it is (as in, “What it is!”), but I’ve never had occasion to use it.

I bet you’re a big nerd like all white people.

• You mean like Steve Urkel?

Nope, definitely not a white guy despite my outer appearance.

Now for my blackness:
I bet you dance very well - but only to hip hop.

• I dance very well to all kinds of music.

I bet you own 30 Jordans and giant oversized FUBU jeans and a big puffy down jacket.
*No Jordans and no FUBU, but I do have a puffy down jacket, but I only wear it in cold weather, so I gues it doesn’t count.

I bet you’ve worn the combination of the above during the hottest days of summer.
*No

I bet you really love either rap or hip hop.
*It depends on the artist–50 Cent bores me, but I LOVE The Roots.

I bet you love KFC and watermelon.
*I’m doing South Beach, so neither one applies.

I bet a hockey stick, tennis racket or ski pole has never touched your hand.

*You got me.

I bet you look your nose down on people who wear suits, fitted cotton Dockers and Polo golf shirts.
*I look down on people who spend money on name labels when they could get the same clothes cheaper at Marshall’s or Ross.

I bet you live in some sort of assisted housing.
*My boyfriend pays the rent–does that count?

I bet you live in a broken household with a single mom and twelve brothers and sisters.
*Nope

I bet at least one of your friends knocked up some hizzo and another is in jail.

*Again, nope.

I bet you don’t know what a 401k is or what it does.
*Wrong on both counts.

I bet you talk like “fo-shizzle my nizzle!” like all black people

*I’d rather cut out my tongue.

Shoot, I didn’t do well on that on either. Hmmm, I wonder if there are any vacancies with the Korean stereotypes–I’m good at math, I like kimchi and rice for breakfast, and I like to drink soju.

[gobear]

Oops, I inadvertently C&P’d the paragraph from “In secondary school. . . racial difference.”

[gobear]

Msmith and Pizzabrat. . talking in movies by itself is not a Black Stereotype. Old, deaf white people do it all the time (“Who is that girl?” “What did he say?” and so on.)

To be stereotypical, you have to shout instructions to characters on the screen, like so . . .

GIRL, don’t you go in that room! That’s where the killer’s at! Whoops, homegirl got an ax, the killer about to get his ass whupped now!

The theory being, I believe, that the people in the movie won’t know what to do if you don’t tell them, much in the way that pro athletes on TV can’t complete a pass or catch a ball without the white guys in the sports bar yelling instructions.

[UrbanChic]

I think I now have a crush on ms mith.

[Creative_Munster]

*Originally posted by vasyachkin *
**well Sinful you obviously assume that they should be ashamed of what they are, and hide it at any cost. and this is truly racist.

i much prefer prefer loud vulgar thug type black guys to the sniveling little shits that try to appear white so that they could get a promotion.

**

Let me get this straight, loud vulgar thugs should be proud that they are loud vulgar thugs?

Should they also be proud when they are sent to prison for being loud vulgar thugs or would that be racist?

Maybe you and I have a different notion of what being a thug is. Otherwise you make no sense at all.

[Creative_Munster]

Actually that should read: Or would it be due to racism that they were sent to prison and not because they were loud vulgar thugs?

[UrbanChic]

Dressing like a thug does not a thug make.

[CanvasShoes]

*Originally posted by pizzabrat *
**They paid too, and maybe that’s why they don’t appreciate self-proclaimed nannies telling them to be quiet. You don’t think there should be talking in theaters, understandable. Some people like to talk in theaters, also understandable. What makes you think you’re the right one and they’re wrong? It’s just a difference of preference. **

No, actually it’s not. Why do you think that theatre managers will remove people who are talking too loudly?

Or why do you think that the little advertising trailer comes on in the beginning and says “Please, No Talking”? Is that for “everyone but you”?

I have no idea where you’re living that it’s “normal” for lots and lots of people to be conversing during an entire movie, but in most places, that’s NOT the norm for movie theatres, unless you’re at some sort of RHPS type interactive thing.