Black Women Less Attractive - Is the Outrage Due to Flawed Researched or Political Correctness?

I find redhaired attractive but I am married to one

I also find most black women to be unattractive, but I think it’s because so many of them are obese and/or very loud.

There are a couple of black women in my building at work who are truly stunning. If I were single I would be trying to date them. :slight_smile:

I won’t offer any opinions or theories to explain why this or that ethnic group is more or less attractive than any other.

I will note that LONG before this article was posted, you’d have had no trouble finding angry or self-pitying articles by two groups in particular, wondering why they can’t get dates with members of the opposite sex in their own ethnic groups.

Those two groups are… black women and Asian men.

White men often have a particular attraction for Asian women, and black men regularly pursue both Asian and white women.

That leaves numerous black women and Asian men alone and angrily wondering. “HEY! What’s wrong with US???”

There was ALREADY a lot of sensitivity and anger over this issue before this article came out. There were ALREADY a lot of black women fuming over “their” men’s interest in white women and loads of Asian men furious that “their” women were looking elsewhere.

If the end of miscegenation taboos had made white girls more interested in Asian men, or white males more interested in black women, the anger would be muted. But that hasn’t happened, as a rule (though, in my case, my only close Chinese male friend has a blonde, blue-eyed wife).

Black women and Asian males aren’t angry because they think Kanazawa is a racist. They’re angry because he’s reminded them of something that was pissing them off already.

Are Asian males mad about this? Did he have a blog about why Asian males are unattractive that I missed?

Does this give me an excuse to look at pictures of Halle Barry?

You forgot to add white men to that list.

For the longest time black men having sex with white women was one of the biggest taboos in the US specifically because white men felt threatened by it.

Also, don’t forget that there’s a background behind the Rolling Stones’s “Brown Sugar.” Listen to the lyrics. Now look at the rainbow of complexions represented by the peoples of African descent in the New World. There is a relationship there and it goes counter to the “Black women are less attractive” hypothesis. Maybe one could argue that black women were simply more rapeable back in the day–which has nothing to do with looks. But the fact that black Americans have roughly 25% European background seems to suggest that historically white men have had no qualms about sticking their dicks into black women…that societal taboos were not enough to keep many of them away. Were they fucking them with paper bags over their heads? Inquiring minds want to know.

I’m not pissed off about articles like this (but thanks for telling me and other black women not only what we feel but why we feel it…that’s not pompous of you at all, no sir!).

Rather, I’m annoyed when I see people going out of their way to trash another group of people for no reason except to make themselves feel superior. Doing it under the pretense of science is further irksome, because it lulls people into respecting this trash talk when they should be deriding it at least seriously questioning the motivation behind it. Moreso than being annoyed by Kanazawa, I’m annoyed by the people can’t see this drek for what it is. It is definitely racist.

Black women seem to be on the receiving end of this kind of treatment on a regular basis. Why is this? I mean, really I don’t get it. Can someone explain this to me? I mean, lord knows there are plenty of phenotypes that I find unattractive. But you know what? I keep those particular opinions myself because I know that my preferences in mates is just not all that interesting to the world. So I don’t get this need that some people have to denounce the attractiveness of other people. When I see this happening against black women, over and over again, in blogs and other postings, I can’t help but feel that something more sinister than just sharing a personal opinion is afoot. I mean, even if you think black women are less cute than other groups, it is it that serious that you gotta write essays on the subject? Really?

This is my theory: Black women are known to have more positive self-images than their non-black counterparts. I suspect there are a lot of outsiders who are quite annoyed by this flagrant uppitiness. Like, “How dare this nappy-headed ho think she is all that?” Most of these people are probably unhappy in their lives and painfully insecure with their own status on the totem pole (i.e., have small dick syndrome). So when a black women is confident and celebrates her own beauty rather than looking for others to validate it, it brings out the haters who want to invalidate her self-image and bring her down so they can reaffirm their own sense of superiority. [White women receive the same treatment too if they dare to be chubby or look older than the age of 40.]

In this way, it’s not that surprising that an asian male wrote this blog. When you consider that historically minorities have sought social esteem by attacking those they consider lesser than them (and it’s always black people in the US), then it makes sense. Plus, he’s trying to make money and get attention without being too out there, so he goes after the group that is most popular to attack.

Riiiiight.

What was I thinking? Obviously, if you can’t get a date, it’s because you’re just TOO wonderful and TOO awesome, and we insecure guys can’t handle it.

Kanazawa: “Black women are fat, stupid, ugly and mannish.”
The internets: “Kanazawa you’re a racist fraud.”
some time elapses

astorian: “Black women (and Asian males???) are just angry at Kanazawa for hitting close to home.”
you with the face: “I’m a black woman, don’t tell me why I’m angry or how I think.”
astorian: “You know what I said is true.”

astorian, you got a shovel in your hand; just drop it.

If you have a need or desire to publically denounce another group of people as unattractive, just for the sport of it, then yeah, I’m going to think you have a small dick and a boat load of other insecurities. Sorry if this radically uncontroversial opinion bugs the fuck out of you, but it’s psychology 101.

Such comments say far more about you than about black women.

Anyway sorry if a black woman laughed at you when you asked her out.

Get specific and tell me EXACTLY and SPECIFICALLY what I said that was factually incorrect. And while you’re at it, find a single line in whcih I stated that black women are unattractive.

Back to the real issue:

True or False- LONG before this particular article by this particular researcher, numerous black women were angrily denouncing black men for traitorously pursuing white women?

(Pssst… this is a gimme. The answer is TRUE.)

There may be a thousand different reasons that a black man might choose to pursue non-black women, and he has EVERY right in the world to do so. But when he does, a HUGE number of black women are going to take that as a personal rejection and a personal affront. Black women ALREADY knew that a lot of their men preferred non-black women, and they already resented the hell out of black men who date white women.

You with the Face is the one coming up with a preposterous theory to explain the sad reality. “Black men go after white women because… because we black women are just TOO fantastic.”

No, you clearly don’t have any issues with black women.

Since I’ve said nothing about black men pursuing white women, black women being fantastic, or any other gobbledygook you see fit to project into my post, it’s clear that you’re posting plenty of “factually incorrect” things in your quest to defend a racist moron.

Is that specific and exact enough for you, boo?

Well, I can’t think of any group of women I find utterly unattractive but I’ve never hung around Papuans but I would say that my attraction to non Asian women is a lot more binary than my attraction to Asian women. IOW its a lot easier for me to say “Hot or Not” for a non-Asian woman than it would be for Asian women.

BTW I don’t mind hair on the arms of women (speaking of Armenian women) and frequently find them very attractive, a hairy back on the other hand is a bit ofa dealbreaker. So, I don’t think hairy arms really bother East Asian women that much. at least not as much as a hairy back and neck do.

I found it painfully ironic. Asian males (at least in thic country) suffer a similar social fate as black women. Everyone will point to Beyonce and Halle Berry as examples of attractive balck females and in the process relegate anyone less attractive than them as unattractive and Asian men suffer a similar fate except people have more trouble identifying the Beyonce or Halle Berry within the Asian male population.

Black males have been brainwashed by mass media into buying into a paradigm of beauty that doesn’t coincide with what they find in black women. Similarly, Asian women have been brainwashed into buying into a paradigm of beauty that doesn’t coincide with waht they find in Asian men.

Hmmm… Let’s take the scienticfic route and test your hypothesis with a quick, unbiased survey of French, male, dance musicians.

Ladies of the SDMB, who hotter? Martin Solveig or Stromae?

This should conclusively settle the mixed vs single race question. :smiley:
(PS - Ladies don’t get sidetracked by Gaël Monfils or Novak Djokovic. Remember, this is for Science!)

???

Who said anything about not being able to get a date? What?