This guy was having an affair with Cherie Blair. He tried to blackmail her, so she had him killed.
Suicide or heart attack – I wonder what the security services decided he should die from, oops sorry ! . . . what he he die from . . . those naughty, naughty days are over. One assumes . . .
And, I suppose, it’s the first death caused by the <da da daaaaaa> weapons of mass destruction.
Hmmm . . .
I stand by what my OP says:
Whether it be heart-attack, suicide or even Labour Party hit squad, Messrs Blair & Campbell are responsible for the situation this man was in. He was quite clearly singled out as the fall guy whose career and reputation was used as a disposable weapon against the BBC. All to serve as a distraction from their errors.
They’re scrambling. They’re really, really scrambling.
And a Post Mortem later today ? Holy shit . . .
They need to react very speedily so to stop the speculation spiralling out of control; “Lets wait and see what the Judicial Inquiry reports”
Got to be done before the Sunday papers get their teeth into it – won’t stop ‘em but the Judicial Inquiry provides a valid make shift defense.
I bet Campbell’s doing his pieces on the phone from the Far East
kabbes, please don’t think I’m without sympathy, but feeling that suicide is the only viable option and having it be the only viable option are not the same. I understand how you must have felt; however, if you had committed suicide and someone close to you had posted here about it, I would not have said, “Oh, good, s/he made the right decision.” It is never the right decision; it is never justifiable.
Yes L_C, it’s Bliar’s classic strategy.
And you can be damn certain that the remit of the enquiry will be extremely limited.
I predict that an enquiry will find the government ‘…not to have acted improperly’, even though I doubt the enquiry will be allowed to ask if this was possibly the case. "…cleared on all counts…unfortunate events…recommend guidelines for questioning of civilians…etc etc’
Didn’t Woy Jenkins’ commission report that we should get PR or something?
I wonder where that’s gathering dust?
Disillusioned? Me?
Ah, here we are
I’m mixing up my Roy’s too :rolleyes:
Andy - unprecedented times, but I think you can probably risk a little more faith in the UK system of democracy.
Very early days but I suspect something greater than even this Blair Administration has now been stirred into action; Parliament as a body and the sense of duty and/or responsibility those representatives currently in the Commons must now feel very for the institution itself.
The Blair Administration got itself in the position (over Iraq) where it had no choice but to take the piss, and then tried to avoid the consequences. Parliament’s not having that, IMHO, and there’s enough time for Gordon Brown to get his feet comfortably under the table before the next election.
The Parliamentary Labour Party can afford to drop Blair and not lose a stride. Also, if Blair is to go, loyalists will start the process of ever-so-slightly distancing themselves from the official line over the summer in preparation . . . .
To slightly paraphrase what the man said this week to the US Congress; “History will judge us”. Yep, I believe it will. He’s in big, big trouble.
It does seem like the healthy cynicism most people have of politicians is turning a little darker IMO.
I wonder if the best thing that could happen (and I think quite a possibility if Brown gets in) is to have a hung parliament next time around?
Of course if I had my way, we’d have a dicatatorship. The only way to avoid short termism and stop politicians trying to do jobs for which they have no talent. Out of necessity, I will allow my name to go forward as the dictator
Assuming Blair does go, I’d hazard the manner in which he goes has to contribute to how the Brown Administration is perceived by the electorate.
If it’s a clean break, Brown could even be seen as providing the New Labour Project with a second wind; we could all soon be believing the New Jerusalem is barely around the next corner . . . . <bring me my bow of shining gold>
But, of course, we’re in the realm of blind speculation. I would say, however, a hung Parliament (next time) would require an historic loss of seats – that’s an awful lot of New Labour blood on the carpet and I don’t believe they’re as stupid as were the Tories over, say, Euro scepticism.
But who knows . . .interesting days indeed . . . .
Well done on putting your name forward, how about sending Sven to Tyburn and giving me the slot - I promise I won’t play a flat back four ?
The new UK dictator code states, part VI, subsection XXII, rule 9
This is a dictatorship. I’ll leave you to work out what preferred means;)
Latest: Dr. Kelly bled to death from cut wrists.
Poor bastard.
Friends and colleagues have been paying tribute to Dr David Kelly.
Scott Ritter, who worked with him as part of the UN weapons inspections team in Iraq, said he was a man of “integrity, character, and somebody who cared deeply about his country”.
Mr Ritter, who lead the UN inspection team up until it left Iraq in 1998, told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme that Dr Kelly was somebody who had doggedly pursued the Iraqi biological weapons program and who had never caved in to pressure.
He said: "My experience of David is that he is a man who does his job and does it quietly.
“While a gentle man, he had a core of steel in him. I’ve seen him interact with Iraq government officials; there was no give in this man.”
*Mr Mangold *said Dr Kelly had not been particularly interested in journalism or journalists.
“He was passionately interested in what happens in Iraq,” he said.
“That was one of the reasons why Saddam Hussein wanted him out more than anybody else.”
The BBC now says Kelly was their source for the discredited claim that the government “sexed up” the intelligence report. http://herald-sun.com/firstnews/37-372739.html The BBC had not made this claim when Kelly was alive.
You are a despicable excuse for a human, december.
“Blame the corpse”?
“The BBC had not made this claim when Kelly was alive.”
Did it ever cross your mind that the BBC was protecting Kelly?
Fucking asshole.
Everyone knows he has his own agenda in relation to the not-biased-enough-to-my-people BBC but this is deeply offensive on a variety of levels.
In the same way Opal Cat doesn’t mean to make a buck via this board, december doesn’t mean to troll . . .
Just ban the trolling, parasitic scum, please.
I second this post.
december, you have got this totally and utterly arseways. The Beeb was keeping Kelly’s identity hidden. That is one of the reasons for the government’s anger - they were applying pressure for Gilligan and the BBC to break journalistic integrity by naming the source. They refused to do this, and the reason they have now revealed that Kelly was the source is that Kelly’s family gave them permission.
Furthermore, the “sexed up” claim is not in the least bit “discredited”. Like the attempt at spin there, though - worthy of Alaister Cambell.
Finally, a little poll: who do we believe? Kelly or Campbell. I bet you can guess what I think…