More lying sack evidence available from the Kossacks.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/2/25/121750/746/43/701697
(Warning: very lefty site, hooo boy for lefty, anti-cooty protocols are useless! Tighty rightys advised to flee, flee for your lives! You have been warned.)
Boiled down: Bobby told a “good ol’ boy” story about average folks just doing an end run around fancy-schmancy Washington and doing what needs to be done, by golly!
Its a crock.
I was in a donut shop, here in Tennessee, & I listened to a collection of men at the counter.
They were yammering about “secret Muslims” and “taking away outr guns” and “Obama’s secret plan to force us all to become Muslims”…no doubt they would get around to “Obama’s secret plan to sex up our wimminfolk”.:rolleyes: Fox News was on the store’s TV.
The Idiot Right is far from dead. Beware them.
Did you mention the part about the 70 virgins when they go to Heaven? Ask how that compares to singing “Hossanah!” for the rest of Eternity?
I think lots of Angels fans have demanded explanations over the years.
So, you think putting it in the middle of LA, where getting to it from anywhere might take more than an hour makes more sense? Or do you think people will use LA’s world class mass transit system to get to it?
Actually putting it in Anaheim would make it more accessible from the San Diego area also, which is a plus, and would probably make parking near the train station feasible. I don’t know how they are proposing to route the train, but I’d expect getting right of way from the middle of LA would be horrendously expensive.
But this is moot - because it is not in the bill. (Just to remind you.)
Well, so you say! But can you prove it? Where, exactly, is it not in the bill?
In the interest of earnest bi-partisanship; I thought that Obama’s tie was rather candy-cane oriented too.
Page 11. But I’m unable to find an online cite.
Yeah. I loved the baby peek-a-boo game beginning of the speech.
“Wheeeere’s Bobby? Wheeeere’s Bobby? LOOK! There he is, Snookums! THERE he is!”
Personally, I hope “down home Bobby” and “simple Sarah” run on the ticket together. Done and done.
This just in …
The Vegas-Disneyland train is still not in the stimulus bill.
And Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
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Well, OK. But the raw power, the charisma! You could almost feel the surge of energy through the nation! His mastery of the room, the timing…oh, wait.
Jindal. Sorry. Never mind.
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I was going to start a thread about Jindal’s tone and attitude and general ineptitude, but this expressed it better. Thanks!
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I was coming by to say the same thing. Could the GOP have chosen anyone WORSE SUITED to follow Obama? Jindal did a lousy job of speaking and as far as I could tell, didn’t respond to Obama’s actual speech.
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Well, that’s actually fairly common. I don’t know that the rebuttal party actually gets a draft of the President’s speech ahead of time, or if they just kinda guess at the content, but typcially these do not so much as directly address the President’s remarks as lay out the opposition’s idea of the proper approach.
Palin-Jindal, 2012! Can the Democrats find this much suckage? We dare them!
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Also, this seems to be the new Republican strategy: If we dress up the same old excrement in shiny new diverse boxes, people will lap it up! They seem to think Obama was elected because he is black. The same way they thought they were going to woo the die-hard Hillary Democrats by choosing a woman for VP candidate. The Republicans can’t seem to understand that there are things going on under the surface. Everything with them is superficial. The image is more important than the message.
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But at least we’re no longer the party of old, white men any more! See! We got a woman. We got a black man. We even have an Indian son of an immigrant! We R the cool!
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We had the same reaction to Jindal last night. I think I said, “Does he think we are six?”
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I didn’t see it, I was in the car, listening. He sounds exactly like a mega-church preacher. Same rhythms, same emphases, same speech structure, same types of anecdotes, same way of building to his point and coming to a conclusion. A certain portion of the base is going to love what I heard. It’s comfortable and familiar, and speaks exactly to them in a way that they’re used to being spoken to. I’m not dismissing him at all.
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I’m not sure which implication is worse, what that says about Louisiana voters, what that says about mega-church-goers, or what that says about preachers.
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Plus, many earmarks are in the form of language directing agencies as to how they should spend money they’re already getting. So cutting out all earmarks would accomplish virtually jack shit.
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Not to detract from your point, but sometimes earmarks are additional funds directed for a specific project. They will only be provided to go to that project. But the overall amount, as you say, is minimal.
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Just a quick check shows me that Anaheim is some 30 miles from Union Station in LA - along the most congested highways in the country. Getting there could take more than an hour. Rail links between the two are fairly robust - but it is Anaheim. It is a suburb of LA that is politically separate - it is even in Orange County.
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For most of the country, the metropolitan area goes by by the name of one of the individual polities, but the name is used to refer to the whole metropolitan area.
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Missed my point completely, I’m afraid, Mr. Moto. If it’s LV to L.A. call it LV to L.A. But if it’s LV to Anaheim, DON’T calll it LV to L.A.; call it LV to Anaheim.
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Why? What does specifying “Anaheim” do? It’s not like any high speed rail link to Vegas would only serve the Anaheim community. It would serve the whole LA basin. To the rest of the country, the distinction is unimportant, certainly in this context.
What about Washington, D.C. that has suburbs of Bethesda, Maryland, and Arlington, Virginia? Heck, Long Beach is essentially a suburb of L.A.
Given the unlikelihood of the monumental disaster that Obama would have to become in order to be beatable, it might be best for the GOP to sacrifice their two most notable tokens that way - and thereby help themselves outgrow tokenism.
What’s that AA says about first having to hit bottom?
Wear a leather glove?
Oh, wait, that’s BDSM, not AA.
Hey now, cut him some sack [sic]. It’s not like he was hanging out at Katie’s Restaurant, or Home Depot (where he spends a lot of time, you know).
I keep coming back to this quote, and I keep thinking to myself, “weapons of mass destruction.” Who knew that an important part of the Republican platform was measured fiscal responsibility, sober consideration of evidence, and thoughtful analysis of costs and benefits prior to any expenditure?
I am told that the stimulus bill allocates no money, that is to say, zero money, no dollars, bupkis, to this specific alleged rail line. If, if if, if, should it come to pass, hypothetically, in future, that the proponents of that line apply for some slice of that cash, then resoundingly yes, we should consider the merits of their project before dumping money all over them.
If only the Republicans had had this much fiscal caution before throwing away thousands of lives and billions of dollars. Gosh. That would’ve been nice.
Can’t use the word “Bingo”, because that’s the title of a children’s song and if we use that too much it’ll affect the educational budgetation.
-Joe
I watched Bobby Jindal appear on Meet the Press recently, and he didn’t sound like an idiot. Other than his overuse of “let’s be clear” as a way to emphasize his points, he sounded fine.
His rebuttal performance came off kind of like a stud Triple-A pitcher who was called up to the big club and got creamed in his first outing.
We were out last night so I’m just now catching up. I read through the whole thread and was surprised to see this was the only mention of Jindal’s “fruit fly” moment. Has he so given up on getting votes from those states that are threatened by volcanoes he would willingly thumb his nose at them?
Pooh-pooing hybrid cars for the government? Ok, stupid, but I can see it if I look at it sideways.
Pooh-pooing high speed rail? Even more stupid, but I can see it (if I squint).
Pooh-pooing monitoring dangerous natural entities that have killed Americans and caused billions of dollars in damage in the fairly recent past and could and certainly will do so again at any time?? Monumentally, unbelievably, mind-bogglingly, awe-inspiringly stupid, and I can’t see it at all. What in the world were he and his speech writer thinking?
I bet you a nice new hybrid car that they were thinking:
“Volcanoes? There ain’t no volcanoes in the United States!”