Ha! Right, because Alaska and Hawaii haven’t been accepted into the Union yet. And Mt. St Helens? Sounds Italian.
Not to mention Mt. Lassen. Sure, it hasn’t killed anybody for 100 years. That means it’ll never happen again.
Besides, if somebody’s living in a danger-prone area where natural disasters are likely to occur, let 'em sort it out themselves. Asking for government money to protect you from a natural disaster is just being a whiny baby. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has better things to be working on than protecting some city from a natural hazard.
The motto of the Army Corps of Engineers: “We don’t solve problems, we build them.”
As I said, the metropolitan area officially ends at the county line. We don’t live in Toy Story Land, and in SoCal, there is no “tri-county area,” as such.
The so-called “re-naming” of the California Angels still stings a little. Especially when it gets “validated” by uncritical repetition.
They can do what pleases them.
Long Beach is a large city, with suburbs of its own, I’ll have you know (see Downey, Bellflower, and Lakewood as examples).
Do a reality check. The New York Giants and the New York Jets both have their home stadium in New Jersey. The major airport that services Cincinnati, Ohio, is in Kentucky. East St. Louis, IL isn’t a suburb of St. Louis, MO? On and on.
Manhattan is in New York County. Queens is in Queens County. Bronx is in Bronx County, Brooklyn is in Kings County, Staten Island is in Richmond County. Those five counties are all in the same** CITY.** They are not suburbs.
Now tell me again that suburbs end at the county line.
So what, we’re going to take every good thing we can think of and call it a stimulus? How is spending this money going to stimulate the economy?
I will agree that it is wise, but it is hardly stimulative. And trying to justify it as such is just going to get people to question the logic behind the whole thing.
If we’re going to spend the money anyway, and the money will get into the economy within a relatively short period of time, it makes sense to spend it now under the logic of the stimulus. No?
It seems to me that the best counter-argument is that the stimulus process was too fast to fairly evaluate whether we would have spent the money anyway. But if you agree that we would have spent it anyway, what argument do you have for not spending it now when it will do the most good for the economy?
Spartydog, please note that I said AFAIAC.
And since I don’t care about football, I’m not likely to care what kind of freakish naming conventions a bunch of Noo Yawkers are willing to put up with.
Come to think of it, I don’t really care about the Angels, either (there’s that whole “designated hitter” abomination going on). So let’s drop that aspect of it.
But while Orange County is admittedly in the Los Angeles Basin (a geographic feature), I still maintain that it is not a part of the Los Angeles Metropolitan area (a political/commerce-oriented entity). Else we’d be getting our water bills from the Metropolitan Water district.
It’s not even clear to me that a direct route to Union Station in downtown would be feasible. There’s a big mountain range in the way, don’t you know. The right-of-way would probably follow I-15 to the east and take the pass between Victorville and Rancho Cucamonga. At that point Anaheim is *closer *than downtown L.A. and already has a Metrolink station that links up with everything from San Diego to Santa Barbara.
You could shorten the route a little by tying in to the existing rail network at Rancho Cucamonga or San Bernadino, but that would seriously cut into the tourist traffic between the casinos and Disneyland. The increased ridership in the long run would probably pay for the additional 30 miles of track.
We prefer to deny that, unless out of town visitors ask, “Where all the wild women at?”
My colleague from Northern Orange County is correct. We ain’t LA, and some of us rarely go above the Orange Curtain.
A Las Vegas train would make a lot of money for Vegas casinos. Other than the stimulus of building it, I am not sure how much long-term cash it would provide to Orange County however. I see it mainly funneling Southern California to Vegas. Southwest Airlines will fight it rather than lose the John Wayne airport traffic.
John Wayne Airport - where the approach is over Irvine, the Airport is in Newport Beach, the call sign is based on Santa Ana, and the takeoff is over Costa Mesa.
My boss made the same comment this morning.
Me, I was trying to figure out what was with the attempted grand entrance and why he sounded like he was speaking through a mouth full of mush.
You know how the Republicans are. Our new black president gives a speech. “Well, lookie here,” they say. “We’ve got our own colored guy with a daddy from another country who can answer to him.” Or how about this other recent precedent: Elect a black president, what’s the Republican response? “Oh, heck, just for fun, here’s colored guy to head our party. See? It’s not just the Democrats who are diverse.”:rolleyes:
Noo Yawkers? Nice try at whether that’s really pertinent in determining if a suburb is part of a metropolitan district. A lot of people in Westchester or New Jersey rarely travel into Manhattan but that doesn’t exclude them from the metropolis. (Actually a lot of people in the Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn and Staten Island rarely travel to Manhattan).
Delude yourself as much as you want but Anaheim and Orange County are part of the Los Angeles sprawl. They didn’t develop on their own. Los Angeles, as much as you might despise or remove yourself from it, begot Orange County. Suck it up and accept it.
Here’s a tip: Since you aren’t getting your water bills from Los Angeles, quit buying bottled water. It will be a big savings in these harsh economic times.
Hell, just bringing the train back to Las Vegas would help. Currently if you want to take the train to Las Vegas, you have to take a fucking bus from Reno or Kingman, AZ. It would be nice to have any rail service to Las Vegas again.
What?
Do you mean the Los Angles Department of Water and power? Because there is an entity that is the Metroplian Water District of which cities like Anaheim, Snata Ana, and the MWD of Orange County are members. Note however, that there are lots of cities that could properly be considerd in Los Angeles (Brubank, Glendale, Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, etc) so as to disabuse the notion that you have to get water from LADWP to be considered Los Angeles.
I’m a Republican and I know a whole bunch of Republicans. I haven’t heard anyone talk of “colored people” in, oh, 30 years or so. So who is the “they say” you are quoting? Why don’t you just start talking about the darkies or Sambo or something while you are at it?
You make it sound like Jindal is some cluless token that a bunch of backroom good ole’ boys have propped up “just for fun.” You don’t think he won his election, in a deep south state, by connecting with voters? Obviously the people of Louisiana and the Republican Party think he has a lot to offer. He’s a smart guy. From what I understand, he’s a really smart guy. Sure, you may not like him, and in the echo chamber that is the SDMB, you probably have missed that lots of news articles and opinion pieces from all over the political spectrum have been talking about him for over a year or so now.
He may never be more than the Governor of Louisiana, but for you to make him out to be some sort of “colored” token the Republicans dug out from under some rock leads me to think that perhaps you never heard of the guy before the other night. Otherwise, I don’t see how you could make the statement you did.
Jindal wasn’t picked because of his ethnicity. He was picked because he is a younun’ and they want to try show that aren’t the stodgy party of the past. Also he has full right wing nuttery credentials to speak for the republicans.