I’ve gone back and forth about this for a while. On the one hand, they are drawing a lot of fire and keeping the GOP slime machine busy with themselves by allowing the possibility to endure. There has been evidence that the DNC machine is looking outside them and testing out some younger talent (Joe Kennedy giving the SOTU response ferinstance). But overall, the democrats on the ground level are still wasting huge amounts of energy fighting out the HRC/BernieBro conflict instead of planning a successful future.
What do you think? Is this the best current strategy? Or should they each declare their non-intent so that the internal dialog can move on to something more productive?
Hillary Clinton has already stated she won’t be a candidate. It’s only bored pundits who keep mentioning her.
Shitbag Sanders will continue to be a megalomaniac jerk, but hopefully his corrupt wife will be too much of an issue for him to consider another hijacking of a party he won’t join.
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I’m inclined to agree that Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Sanders should let go of their POTUS ambitions; I see nothing good coming out of their running for that office again.
Yes but the schism between the Clintonian Corporatists and the Sanders semi-socialists is a real one and won’t go away even if they both do. It is unfortunate because this is an area where a little difference-splitting and internal triangulation could result is a strong and viable platform for a new candidate going forward.
When you can’t stop yourself from dumbass namecalling like this, you make it very uninteresting to read anything else you say. If that’s cool with you, it’s cool with me.
And Republicans across the land. They can’t let her go! But I agree that both of them should ride off into the sunset as it concerns the Presidency. I don’t mind Sanders as a Senator.
And Republicans across the land. They can’t let her go! But I agree that both of them should ride off into the sunset as it concerns the Presidency. I don’t mind Sanders as a Senator. Hillary should ride off into the sunset altogether. Even Republicans should let her go.
No need to split into two parties, these types of bickering are common. Take a look at the UK Labour Party these days and the clashes between Corbyn’s cult and the parliamentary Labour Party.
The bitterness towards Sanders has to do with his particular poison that he spewed in 2016. Every single time Sanders got his butt kicked in a major primary, it was a conspiracy. Sanders was all but eliminated after Super Tuesday and the New York primary was the death nail. Still, Sanders refused to concede and picked up minor caucus wins along the road to the end in California. Sanders gets his ass whipped in California yet still whines about conspiracies and the DNC. He wants to, ‘take it to the convention’ and his Bernie Bro cult acting like spoiled toddlers.
If Sanders would have conceded like an adult after his butt kicking in New York, then those on the left of center could have unified behind Hillary and a few flakes throwing their votes away on Jill Stein or pointless write ins would have had no influence on the election.
The last spoiled child in the Democratic primaries was Jerry Brown back in 1992. He certainly had his followers that would never vote for Bill Clinton. However, the media smartly ignored Brown after it was clear Clinton was the nominee. Brown became an asterisk because cable news at the time rightly focused on Bush vs Clinton vs Perot and there was no social media or Russian bots continuing to push Jerry Brown.
IMO, this kind of bitterness is doing just as much damage to the Democratic party as what you’re accusing Bernie and his supporters of. This is how I look at it – we have passionate people who disagreed on some stuff in the '16 race and got angry, and some of them didn’t behave strategically, but they were still mostly decent people doing what they thought was best. We’ll need them all to win in '18 and '20. Shitting on them as much as you do helps no one but Trump and his supporters.
The difference is, I’ll be voting Democratic in 2018 and 2020 and will never throw my vote away on a novelty 3rd party candidate nor stay home or do a pointless write in. I hate Daniel Biss (who is a whiny Bernie Bro clone) and I hope he gets his butt kicked in the Illinois Governor’s primary. But, if he wins, I’ll vote for him because Bruce Rauner is unacceptable.
I agree if only for my own sake, as I am between the two on economic policy. I think Sander’s entire wishlist of programs would be too expensive but I think we need to push for both UHC and higher taxes on the wealthy more forcefully than we have been.