Botticelli, March 2012 edition.

I am best known by my actual name.
Summary - U

  1. Real person.
  2. Dead.
  3. Male.
  4. Born before 1900.
  5. Not a soldier.
  6. Not a politician.
  7. Not known for any artistic achievements.
  8. Last name does not begin with a ‘U’.
  9. Not American.
  10. European.
  11. Not British.
  12. Not a scientist, researcher, or inventor of any sort.
  13. Not German.
  14. Born before 1800.
  15. French.
  16. Not known for the practice of medicine.
  17. Known as a religious figure.
  18. Catholic*.
  19. Not alive before nor in the year 1517.
  20. Best know by my actual name rather than by any title(s).
    So, I will now entertain guesses in the form of ‘Are you (First Name) (Last Name)?’ from glee, Elendil’s Heir and ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness, all of whom stumped me in this round.

If you are truly stumped and do not wish to even guess, could you please say so in a post? I will reveal the answer when I’ve heard guess or pass from those three Dopers.

At which point, if it is truly someone whom none of you have ever heard of, I will find some way of randomly selecting the next chooser. I will also take whatever forfeit I have coming.

Sorry if I didn’t make it clear. :o
First I gave up. (I won’t be guessing any answer.)

Then I asked my colleagues in the French, History and English departments.
Then I tried Googling.

I got nothing. :confused:

I’m coming up empty, even with the bonus hints. Feel free to count me as truly stumped.

OK, I’m out, too. Don’t have the foggiest notion. Well and truly stumped.

Who are you thinking of, Ministre?

All right. I am Urbain Grandier, 1590 - 1634,

The not very well known play written by the famous novelist was “Urbain Grandier”, by Alexandre Dumas (Père). Dumas also mentioned the case in his “Crimes Célèbres”, having possibly come across it while researching Cardinal Richelieu in the course of writing “The Three Musketeers”.

The book written by the famous novelist was “The Devils of Loudun”, by Aldous Huxley.

The play adapted from this book was “The Devils” (my apologies, it would seem the play and the film both bear the abbreviated title.), by John Whiting.

The film is “The Devils”, directed by Ken Russell and starring Oliver Reed in the role of Urbain Grandier. The film was hugely controversial because of the scenes involving sexuality, violence and sacrilege, earning it ‘X’ ratings in the UK and the US, even after two of the most shocking scenes were cut. The film is also noteworthy for its soundtrack, composed by Sir Peter Maxwell Davies and performed by the ‘Fires of London’.

The opera is “Die Teufel von Loudun” by Krzysztof Penderecki.

“Urbain” is the French form of “Urban”, which is why I said you were close when Pope Urban and Saint Urban came up. I thought Elendil’s Heir had me for certain when he asked about famous writer/sequel by another famous writer - that was close enough to Dumas/Huxley to have me sweating.

So, now, my friends - I submit myself to your judgement. I had decided on ‘U’ as a letter because we hadn’t used it. (There are still a few unused 'U’s out there that surprise me; perhaps they were discarded as being too obvious.) After mentally scanning through all the 'U’s I could think of, I chose Urbain Grandier.

Based on all the above, it was in good faith that I felt I had chosen someone challenging but fair. Between the Huxley novel, which I read somewhere in the mid 1970s, the Ken Russell film which I saw several times in the 1980s and the Penderecki opera (Okay, being an opera singer and a Penderecki fan, that one is likely just me.), I didn’t feel that he was unjustifiably obscure. His case also comes up in the context of historical witchcraft trials, having happened about ~50 years ahead of the Salem witchcraft trials. The fact that there is a contract signed by the Devil and several demons used in ‘evidence’ makes him come up in legal circles from time to time, I am told.

All that being said, if he is someone you have truly never heard of and feel you had no reason ever to have heard of him, I will find some way to randomly select one of you as the next chooser, and I humbly apologize. You are right - the game is much more fun when the answer revealed makes you say ‘Gah! I should have thought of that!’.

I’ve actually seen the film, and knew it was based on a play; however, I didn’t remember any character names. Given that, I vote this was a fair game.

Thank goodness - I’ve never heard of him!
No, seriously, I was worried that I would be shown to be culturally ignorant. :o

I have heard of:

  • Aldous Huxley (but I haven’t read any of his books)
  • the film ‘the Devils’ (but I’ve never seen it)
  • Ken Russell (he directed ‘Tommy’ :cool:)
  • Oliver Reed (he was in ‘The Three Musketeers’ and ‘Gladiator’)

I giggle at your reply to “Was he a Catholic?” of “Yes, but the relationship did not end well.”
The poor guy was burnt at the stake! :eek:

I think you made an honest mistake* and it was definitely interesting to have an uncommon letter.

I’m happy for Elendil’s Heir or ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness to start the next game.

*Botticelli can end abruptly if the answer is too easy - but at least then the players win and we get another game.
If it’s too obscure, the players are not even sure what direct questions to ask…

Nope, never, ever heard of the guy. Never would’ve guessed him in a million years. I think I’ve started a game more recently than ChockFull, so he’s welcome to start the next game if he wishes.

Seeing this round is over, I looked him up in the Catholic Encyclopedia - he’s listed as an ‘Imposter’, e.g. someone who was a false prophet or curate who misled his flock.

May I make a suggestion? Perhaps it would be better for ChockFull to start a new thread. I had been thinking it might be a useful innovation to have each round of Botticelli in a fresh thread with the Chooser and the initial in the thread title; after this particular round, it might be better if people could tell right away that it’s a new game. Only a suggestion. I’m off to get fitted for the ‘cone of shame’. :slight_smile:
I’m still surprised that Leon Uris, Keith Urban and Uma Thurman didn’t come up in IQs, though.

Makes sense to me. Maybe name it “Botticelli, March 2012 edition, Vol. II”? I’ve looked at the old threads and, since May of last year, the only letters we haven’t done yet are Q, X, Y and Z. H, in May 2011, is our oldest-done letter otherwise.

OK. I’ll start a new thread.
To satisfy my curiosity I looked up which Pope Urban tried to move back from Avignon to Rome. It was Urban V, not VI. Not that the extra DQ would have made any difference.

I looked at the unused letters. For X, I came up with Xena: Warrior Princess, Xerxes of Persia, Xander from Buffy, and Xaviera Hollander. That’s it. I thought Z would be similarly limited, but to my surprise I came up with over 25. So be on the lookout for the new thread with ‘Z’

And here it is: Botticelli, March 2012. Game 2: Z - Thread Games - Straight Dope Message Board