Boy Scouts of America: Let's Piss Everyone Off This Time

BSA is announcing a new policy of allowing openly gay youth to be members, but not to allow openly gay adult leaders.

This is absolutely unacceptable. In fact, as a gay person myself, I think this policy is even worse than before. At least before, they were sticking to a (wrong headed and evil) conviction. This time, they are making a craven political move that they hope will please the most people possible, just to save their own asses from dwindling membership and general public disapproval.

There is absolutely no logically consistent argument that the BSA can make to allow gay youth but not gay leadership. The only thing this will do is piss off the religious zealots who hate the gays, while still alienating the vast majority of the public who have no problem with gay people being in or leading the scouts.

Not putting this in the pit but I understand if it gets moved there. This is sickening.

It is very wrong.

I thought they were leaving these decisions to each charter? (or group or whatever)

Doesn’t the decision basically mean “gay adults are pedophiles”?

Or at the most generous, “awful role models.” Ugh.

What amuses me is the use of “avowed homosexuals” in their proposed resolution. How does one become an avowed homosexual? Is there an oath?

Yeah it’s part of getting your gay card. You have to swear on a copy of Lady Gaga’s newest CD (used to be Madonna’s, or before that Judy Garland’s) that you promise to only have sex with and be attracted to members of the same sex, under penalty of being unfabulous.

Oh, and yes, it totally does just scream, “being gay is still wrong but hey they’re just kids and they’ll probably change and they don’t know any better. Adults should totally know better though!!!”

Disgusting.

Because straight adults will instruct the impressionable gay kids in the ways of Righteousness and Straightness and Goodness,

whereas, in contrast, evil gay pedophilic adults will recruit impressionable youth into the ways of Debauchery and Shame!

Any Scoutmaster could have told you that!

Like the Cylons, they have a plan. They are working on a whole series of badges to save little Johnny. A religous badge for praying the gay away. How to keep your fabulousness confined to your pine derby car. How to whittle sticks to keep your mind off of other more phallic objects.

It’s like a homophobic Logan’s Run. You can be gay until a certain age, and then the BSA Sandmen come to kick you out.

They’re still not budging an inch on transkids.

Here is another take on it I just realized.

The proposed new policy:

So as long as its only sexual orientation, they cannot be kicked out, but if they are gay and the BSA can find any other reason, they can be kicked out. How convenient.

This seems to me like an open door to a lot of trumped up charges and false accusations. Lets say that a troop finds out a scout is gay. There is nothing to prevent the leadership from putting that scout under a microscope and when he does the most minor thing wrong, he’ll be thrown out. I foresee lots of “Discipline” problems suddenly popping up.

I request this gets moved to the Pit, so I can tell you how I really feel.

Maybe just “all men who are interested in working with kids are suspected pedophiles”—but the straight ones would be going after the Girl Scouts instead.

Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory!

Sorry, I can’t wait until this gets moved to the Pit. I apologize in advance. I’ll do you the courtesy of censoring myself.

To the dumbfucks who came up with this … excuse for a “compromise”:

Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation. It’s an attraction to the body of a prepubescent child. To be generous, it is a psychological disorder, which might not make a person evil, but will tempt people to commit acts of extreme harm to a child.

A man who molests male children often can be a guy with a wife, whom he also sleeps with, and he’s never been attracted to adult men. While this pedophilia can be gender-specific, it is not as simple as saying an otherwise straight pedophile prefers little girls as opposed to boys. That is very often not the case in the slightest.

Being a pedophile doesn’t mean that you’re gay- it means you’re a pedophile. You’re attracted to prepubescent bodies. Very often this means you are specifically not attracted to adult men because they don’t have prepubescent bodies. And keep in mind, the pedophile rapist, gets his jollies from the power trip involved in subduing and harming someone. That’s what he gets off on. And that is why even castration does not “cure” a pedophile rapist. Because a huge component of this disorder is sadism and power/control. The violence itself is what is attractive to the sick asshole.

I understand these details are too trivial to someone who considers gay people to be a threat to society, because they’ve got their own psychological disorder- an unnatural, unhealthy fear of, and obsession with denouncing, homosexuals. But these facts are a big … deal.

If you were able to magically remove all “homosexuals” from the Boy Scouts, you’d still have 90% of your pedophiles left, allowed to molest as they will. Because homosexuals make up a small portion of the population, and guess what? Most of the population is otherwise straight.

Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation. It’s a desire to abuse children. People need to get that through their … skulls.

Gay people have suffered enough for the things they actually want to do, which is love one another, in the normal and healthy way. And they needn’t suffer for that either. But I’ll be damned before I let this shit come up without pointing out how … idiotic people are when they equate gay persons with … pedophiles.

It’s time for these holier-than-thou anti-gay crusaders who seem to live their lives as a verbal diarrhea distribution mechanism, to take a red-hot iron fireplace poker and shove it up their … … I’d be more than happy to give them a hand with that. Want to know why? It’s not because it gives me a sexual thrill, it’s because I’d be happy to show them the difference between someone who gets off on torture, and someone who is sexually attracted to them. If they can’t intellectually process that, I’ll allow them to feel the difference.

Gay person wouldn’t do that to you, but maybe someone straight who is pissed off enough at their … stupidity would be glad to do the honors. No sexual arousal required, but I guarantee, it would be gratifying.

I gather their ban on atheists is still intact? :rolleyes:

Allah willing, yes that ban is still on.
Now, could lesbians be boyscout troop leaders? Because obviously they would neither be going after the young stuff or corrupting the male youts with their lesbian ways.

Delusion is a weird thing. How can they believe this will fly? Seriously?

Brings to mind the Republican’s last get together wherein they collectively agreed it’s not ‘what’ we’re saying, it’s ‘how’ we’re saying it! Seriously?

Or the evangical Christian’s who knock on my door to convert me, and when I ask where they stand on gay marriage they immediately start to waffle. Makes them look worse than just owning their homophobia to my eyes.

Seriously? Are you kidding me?

Sir, I applaud you.