Good point, Kalhoun. But the focus on the family and community around Robert offsets the medical malpractice.
Court TV’s Crime Library covers the incident as well. John Lotter.
Oh, have I got a twist for you. How about a movie where the TG is the killer in the end?
Doesn’t anyone remember The Crying Game?
Killer is so harsh. I think it was self defense and the character shouldn’t be considered a killer.
Killer, yes; murderer, no.
Self-defense? Hell, it was revenge, baby. Ze was furious at Miranda Richardson for her kidnap plot having caused the death of zer lover (Forrest Whitaker).
“She seduced him with that sexy little ass?” :mad: Bang! Bang!
Self-defense? Hell, it was revenge, baby. Dil was furious at Miranda Richardson for her kidnap plot having caused the death of hir lover (Forrest Whitaker).
“She seduced him with that sexy little ass?” :mad: Bang! Bang!
I’ve been thinking a lot more about The Crying Game lately. I saw it when it first came out, but didn’t “get” it back then. That was before TG was widely understood.
I like the semi-duplicate posts with the pronoun switch! 
But wait a minute… Dill? Didn’t we do a “To Kill a Mockingbird” parody with approximately that plot last year? 
I agree that Hilary Swank is awesome, but I saw the trailer for Million Dollar Baby today, and it seems so mind-numbingly close to The Next Karate Kid (which starred…Hilary Swank!), so rife with “you’re a girl, you can’t possibly fight!” dialogue right out of the '80s, that I wanted to scream. 'Cept in this one, Mr. Miyagi - sorry, Clint Eastwood - has an estranged daughter who may or may not remind him a lot of Hilary Swank, or possibly even *be *Hilary Swank. yawn [/hijack]
To me killer has a connotation that the person planned and intentionally killed. Yes, technically, Dill is a person who has killed someone; but killer imples more of an intention rather than as an act of self-preservation.
Where’d that extra “l” appended to “Dil” come from?
Heh, Stephen Rea was asking that same question…
sniff That was priceless, Otto. Laugh out loud. Literally.
Yeah, and I suppose a woman wearing a short skirt and high heels who walks by a group of men at a construction site is “asking for it” if they decide to gang rape her. :rolleyes:
Brandon was from rural Nebraska, he was young, a little naive, poor and had a rough childhood. He wanted to get out and he wanted to be himself. He fell in love and made a poor decision in friends. You can’t blame him for the ignorant actions of his slack-jawed, hee-haw yokel so-called “friends.”
Nope, I was saying that’s the way it is, and not condoning it in any way. I thought I used enough qualifiers for you to get it. Apparently not.
It’s mentalities like yours which contribute to the problem. “What’s going on?” “Oh, you know <group of humans> are <unpleasant activity> with/to <person who seemingly fits a stereotype> again, that’s just the way of the world. I don’t condone it, but that’s just the way it is.” :rolleyes:
Add to this that Brandon “wanted to be a man” in the sense that a young boy looks to the image of the adult males around him for examples of what “manliness” entails – he was attempting to “fit in with them” as one of them. Swank’s performance bringing this attitude out was one of the finest bits of acting I’ve ever seen.
:rolleyes: yourself. I’m very frustrated and angry at these situations, too. Saying “that’s the way of the world” has NOTHING to do with exacerbating the problem. It is an expression of resignation at the fact that no matter what you or I do, these horrible people will keep doing what they do. Hopefully, we can help a little, but we’re not going to make the human race stop producing violent, hateful people.
Meant to touch on this earlier. I have read in a number of places (usually attributed to “industry insiders” and the like) that Swank was repeatedly told by pretty much everyone around her that she had to go uber-feminine in the wake of BDC to avoid being typecast and/or thought of as a “dyke.” Her next starring role was “The Affair of the Necklace,” in which she wore enormous frilly period dresses and mounds of hair and that was probably no accident.
And two slight hijacks, I never would have imagined that back when Swank was a semi-regular on 90210 that she’d go on to win an Oscar, and did anyone else think that in character as Brandon Teena Swank was a dead ringer for Matt Damon?
I understood the qualifier. I am just disagreeing with you. Perhaps the :rolleyes: was a bit over the top. Nonetheless, we disagree. But this isn’t Great Debates or the Pit so we should leave it at that.
I thought BDC was a great movie. Swank did a wonderful job but it was too damn disturbing, so I have no desire to see it again.